Mesaba is Hiring

[no1pilot2000]

When does Colgan and Mesaba become one airline?

 

[xjhawk]

No, no one can force them to flow. There will probably be a fair number of "lifers" who choose to stay. The union did the best the best they could in the flow negotiation but it is too bad that it did not end up that if someone declined the flow that someone else further down the list could take their place. Alas, not so. At this point it boggles my mind why anyone would actually choose to stay at this joint when they had the option to get out to a better place.

TO quote Will Farrel "Its mind Bottling"

 

[GRAAB HIRBOUBI]

They see a need for pilots since pinnacle is so short and it will be a lot harder to get pilots in the future. They might as well pick up some now to replace the "might as well be gone flow pilots" at mesaba.[/QUOTE

There are about 120 pilots who can flow and all of them will as far as I can tell. None of the flow spots will be wasted.

 

[bri5150]

They see a need for pilots since pinnacle is so short and it will be a lot harder to get pilots in the future. They might as well pick up some now to replace the "might as well be gone flow pilots" at mesaba.[/QUOTE

There are about 120 pilots who can flow and all of them will as far as I can tell. None of the flow spots will be wasted.

3 or 4 of them didn't flow last round, right?

 

[xjhawk]

the above quote....the first part is only my quote, I know for a fact that not all of the future flow eligible pilots will flow. I am not sure about the last batch.

 

[bri5150]

the above quote....the first part is only my quote, I know for a fact that not all of the future flow eligible pilots will flow. I am not sure about the last batch.

Yeah, everyone needs to make their own choices, and I respect that. It really sucks for us below the line because not only did we not get to flow, but now those that CAN flow won't be going anywhere so we don't even get the seniority bump. Oh well.

 

[DoinTime]

They see a need for pilots since pinnacle is so short and it will be a lot harder to get pilots in the future. They might as well pick up some now to replace the "might as well be gone flow pilots" at mesaba.

There are about 120 pilots who can flow and all of them will as far as I can tell. None of the flow spots will be wasted.

From what I've been hearing, there are only about 70-80 flow positions left after the last round of DAL hiring late last summer and DAL has suspended pilot hiring for 2011 and late summer 2012 being the next likely window. Also hearing that its likely that there will be fences between properties for a good while anyway as part of the SLI so hiring at Mesaba won't do Pinnacle or Colgan any good. Those pilots will be stuck within their pre-merger group.

 

[Flyer1015]

I don't mean to sound like the village idiot, but if a pilot at Mesaba declines to flowthrough (when he first did express interest), why it can't go to the next guy who DOES want to flow? Why make it stick to only 100 or so guys, and those 100 may or may not choose to go, leaving a wasted flow spot if one declines? What pilot/union decision sold that away?

 

[Flyer1015]

Also hearing that its likely that there will be fences between properties for a good while anyway as part of the SLI so hiring at Mesaba won't do Pinnacle or Colgan any good. Those pilots will be stuck within their pre-merger group.

Is this rumor or fact? Or, a combination of both? And by those fences you speak of, does this mean pilots can't jump from one carrier to the other until said fence expires?

 

[xjgearbtch]

I don't mean to sound like the village idiot, but if a pilot at Mesaba declines to flowthrough (when he first did express interest), why it can't go to the next guy who DOES want to flow? Why make it stick to only 100 or so guys, and those 100 may or may not choose to go, leaving a wasted flow spot if one declines? What pilot/union decision sold that away?

It wasn't in our control when NWA was bought by Delta. Delta wanted to stop the flow thru dead in it's tracks we were lucky to even get what we got. Our union had no control over it but negotiated as best they could for us.

 

[xjgearbtch]

Is this rumor or fact? Or, a combination of both? And by those fences you speak of, does this mean pilots can't jump from one carrier to the other until said fence expires?

Pure rumor wait till mid may to get the facts from the arbitrator. It's all speculation till then.

 

[Raskal]

if Mesaba is hiring what is the new hire base and is it for the CRJ900. I saw their min WOW!!!!! it was 600TT and 50 multi. Now i don't think that will be for the 900 flying.
they must be really desperate for pilots if the min is so low. That is the lowest i have ever seen any regional go so far.

Don't worry, it will be lower and probably already is. Word from a couple of management types is that we (and I mean all 3 companies) are unable to fill new hire classes. The recent "agreement" with one of the colleges, wmu I think, is evidence of that: jobs without an interview.

We'll be right back to hiring 250 hour guys and we aren't even in the upswing we were before. Yay.

 

[jynxyjericho]

At this point it boggles my mind why anyone would actually choose to stay at this joint when they had the option to get out to a better place.

Eh, 100k a year and 18 days off is hard to give up.

 

[Raskal]

Eh, 100k a year and 18 days off is hard to give up.

Is that really all it takes anymore? Even with all crap treatment? Not judging, just curious.

 

[SEVEN]

Is that really all it takes anymore? Even with all crap treatment? Not judging, just curious.

I would suggest to you that 100k+/yr and 18 days off is hardly "crap" treatment.