Mesaba..CPTs Off The Street!

[xjhawk]

lets see, you can get street capt but you will be at the bottom of the list for some time. But in the mid 40's an hour range. that would feed a family in memphis or detroit. MInneapolis is $$$ though. We are paid during training, i would not doubt you would get screwed and not get capt pay if hired as a capt. new hire pay is like 24 an hour. paid out at 75 a month guarantee. Better than some, but lower than most I beleive. not a bad place to work now, but a year ago........saying it was bad is a serious understatement. the times are different. If the NWA flow starts, be prepared for a lot of movement, especially into a jet if thats what you want....but wait in line.....and to all of you who are pre-madonnas......stay away, we paid our dues, we do not want attitudes...we want good people, i am training with a bunch now that are pretty good people......who know how lucky they are.

 

[BOHICAgain]

If the NWA flow starts, be prepared for a lot of movement,

isn't it 9 slots a month from XJ to NW? if that is the case 108 a year is not that much movement. I know your seniority list is around 800 and growing at this rate it would be about 8 years before a new hire could go to NWA

 

[XJohXJ]

isn't it 9 slots a month from XJ to NW? if that is the case 108 a year is not that much movement. I know your seniority list is around 800 and growing at this rate it would be about 8 years before a new hire could go to NWA

Absolutely true, however, that's a lot of movement for Mesaba! And also, you have to add on the guys that go to Continental, Southwest (whenever they gear up again) FedEx, UPS, etc etc.

Also, I'm guessing plenty of the most senior guys will bypass NWA. That's a permanent bypass, and it won't stall the others from moving. In other words, they'll already have stated they don't want to go, and the flow will automatically skip them.

However, yes, it still will be several years for a new hire to flow up.

 

[Jonahproject]

Talked to a guy who was offered an interview this next week. H.R. told him that they would be hiring street cpts into both the Saab and the jet. Think there's any truth to this?

 

[Gator1999]

Wow...how things have changed. Street captains at XJ, I never thought I would ever see that.

 

[OttoPilot]

Talked to a guy who was offered an interview this next week. H.R. told him that they would be hiring street cpts into both the Saab and the jet. Think there's any truth to this?

They can't hire a single street Captain if there is a qualified pilot at Mesaba that wants the position. That being said, I think there are plenty of SAAB Captains that will move to the jets. The street Captains will all go to the SAAB for some time.

 

[xjhawk]

Yeah, most of the first 150 at XJ will stay at XJ. Its a formula of a return of investment to go to NWA. If you are a jet capt at XJ making nearly a 100k a year (ten year guy or gal) to go to NWA would mean about 10 years to make back the money you would lose taking the pay cut to be an FO at NWA. So many will not go. So you figure that, and 9 a month and the attrition to other airlines, losing 20 a month is good movement while adding planes and such. Even if it takes 4-6 years to get to NWA, you would have the opportunity to be a quick Saab captain, or even a jet captain quickly and have a good QOL while you wait for a position at a major with no interview......there you have it.

 

[pilotshan]

How many eagle guys are going to take a shot at this?

I'm in! No more commuting and PIC time... I'd be crazy not to.

 

[captain dad]

r u sure?

They can't hire a single street Captain if there is a qualified pilot at Mesaba that wants the position. That being said, I think there are plenty of SAAB Captains that will move to the jets. The street Captains will all go to the SAAB for some time.

I would check the contract.

Either way, it is what it is. Getting in now is good.
Don't expect to be flying for NWA for another 10 years though. The cycle will be over before a new hire's number comes up. At best you will be relatively senior at XJ for a while.

Good luck and fly safe.

 

[XJohXJ]

Don't worry, it's in the contract. The only thing that would prevent Saab Captains from becoming Jet Captains is a seat lock, and the contract states that seat locks must be lifted as necessary to prevent the hiring of a street Captain.

 

[prtyprtyprncss]

If I had the time, or if I cared, this would be the point I would repost all the "don't let anyone you care about ride on pinnacle because they have low time pilots and street captains" crap that has been posted in the past couple years.

"It's not yer flyin', it's yer attitude..."

 

[RedGuy]

What are the chances of getting the base you want as a new hire captain in the Saab? I fly turbo props now, I would think that the Saab should be an easy transition. I'm not looking to commute though.

 

[Flybet3]

What are the chances of getting the base you want as a new hire captain in the Saab? I fly turbo props now, I would think that the Saab should be an easy transition. I'm not looking to commute though.

What base are you shooting for bro?

 

[RedGuy]

I'd only be intrested in DTW

 

[Flybet3]

I'd only be intrested in DTW

They're hiring for DTW. If you dont get it right off the bat I'm sure that you would be able to get DTW quick though. MEM and DTW are junior bases.

 

[RedGuy]

So do they do their training in MSP? I read earlier that they do pay you durring training, but don't pay per diam, but do they provide housing?

 

[Flybet3]

So do they do their training in MSP? I read earlier that they do pay you durring training, but don't pay per diam, but do they provide housing?

Yeah it's in MSP, I was told that they use sims in STL. They do provide housing, single occupancy hotel to be exact. Are you trying to go for a PIC position?

 

[XJohXJ]

Get yer app in, if you're interested.

DTW is the junior Saab base, so it's pretty darn likely that's where they'll put Street Captains.

You are hired on day one, with ID. You get paid 75 hr guarantee during training. Paid hotel (single room). No per diem for initial training. Heath bennies on day one of month following your hire month.

 

[Flybet3]

Get yer app in, if you're interested.

DTW is the junior Saab base, so it's pretty darn likely that's where they'll put Street Captains.

You are hired on day one, with ID. You get paid 75 hr guarantee during training. Paid hotel (single room). No per diem for initial training. Heath bennies on day one of month following your hire month.

Hey bud can you tell me if they plan to pay us the 75hr guarantee at 23hr or the 43hr captain pay? Also how do the flight bennies work with you guys? do we (family and parents) get them from day one? Thanx

 

[RedGuy]

Yeah it's in MSP, I was told that they use sims in STL. They do provide housing, single occupancy hotel to be exact. Are you trying to go for a PIC position?

Yeah, I'd be going for Captain. I'm a Captain now where I'm at, so I'd have absolutely no interest in being a Saab FO. Not to mention I couldn't live off FO pay for more than a few months. I'm still not sure if I want to work for the regionals at all, seems like an awful lot of people there really hate their jobs. Plus it'd be a pretty substantial pay cut from what I make now. But I'm thinking maybe the QOL is better, and maybe alot of these guys don't know how bad they could have it. Anyone have an idea how long you'd have to sit on reserve as a new hire captain?

Also I really have no idea what life is like at the regionals, I don't know anyone working for one. What's daily life like at Mesaba?