Mesaba..CPTs Off The Street!

[prtyprtyprncss]

If I had the time, or if I cared, this would be the point I would repost all the "don't let anyone you care about ride on pinnacle because they have low time pilots and street captains" crap that has been posted in the past couple years.

"It's not yer flyin', it's yer attitude..."

 

[RedGuy]

What are the chances of getting the base you want as a new hire captain in the Saab? I fly turbo props now, I would think that the Saab should be an easy transition. I'm not looking to commute though.

 

[Flybet3]

What are the chances of getting the base you want as a new hire captain in the Saab? I fly turbo props now, I would think that the Saab should be an easy transition. I'm not looking to commute though.

What base are you shooting for bro?

 

[RedGuy]

I'd only be intrested in DTW

 

[Flybet3]

I'd only be intrested in DTW

They're hiring for DTW. If you dont get it right off the bat I'm sure that you would be able to get DTW quick though. MEM and DTW are junior bases.

 

[RedGuy]

So do they do their training in MSP? I read earlier that they do pay you durring training, but don't pay per diam, but do they provide housing?

 

[Flybet3]

So do they do their training in MSP? I read earlier that they do pay you durring training, but don't pay per diam, but do they provide housing?

Yeah it's in MSP, I was told that they use sims in STL. They do provide housing, single occupancy hotel to be exact. Are you trying to go for a PIC position?

 

[XJohXJ]

Get yer app in, if you're interested.

DTW is the junior Saab base, so it's pretty darn likely that's where they'll put Street Captains.

You are hired on day one, with ID. You get paid 75 hr guarantee during training. Paid hotel (single room). No per diem for initial training. Heath bennies on day one of month following your hire month.

 

[Flybet3]

Get yer app in, if you're interested.

DTW is the junior Saab base, so it's pretty darn likely that's where they'll put Street Captains.

You are hired on day one, with ID. You get paid 75 hr guarantee during training. Paid hotel (single room). No per diem for initial training. Heath bennies on day one of month following your hire month.

Hey bud can you tell me if they plan to pay us the 75hr guarantee at 23hr or the 43hr captain pay? Also how do the flight bennies work with you guys? do we (family and parents) get them from day one? Thanx

 

[RedGuy]

Yeah it's in MSP, I was told that they use sims in STL. They do provide housing, single occupancy hotel to be exact. Are you trying to go for a PIC position?

Yeah, I'd be going for Captain. I'm a Captain now where I'm at, so I'd have absolutely no interest in being a Saab FO. Not to mention I couldn't live off FO pay for more than a few months. I'm still not sure if I want to work for the regionals at all, seems like an awful lot of people there really hate their jobs. Plus it'd be a pretty substantial pay cut from what I make now. But I'm thinking maybe the QOL is better, and maybe alot of these guys don't know how bad they could have it. Anyone have an idea how long you'd have to sit on reserve as a new hire captain?

Also I really have no idea what life is like at the regionals, I don't know anyone working for one. What's daily life like at Mesaba?

 

[Raskal]

Yeah, I'd be going for Captain. I'm a Captain now where I'm at, so I'd have absolutely no interest in being a Saab FO. Not to mention I couldn't live off FO pay for more than a few months. I'm still not sure if I want to work for the regionals at all, seems like an awful lot of people there really hate their jobs. Plus it'd be a pretty substantial pay cut from what I make now. But I'm thinking maybe the QOL is better, and maybe alot of these guys don't know how bad they could have it. Anyone have an idea how long you'd have to sit on reserve as a new hire captain?

Also I really have no idea what life is like at the regionals, I don't know anyone working for one. What's daily life like at Mesaba?

LOL, it's starting to get funny how many of us there are that are very similar applying for this...all with the same hopes in the QOL department.

I asked the same questions about reserve etc, take a look at this thread for pretty much everything.

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=104128

 

[Lear70]

*chuckle* Raskal, great car... I have an '02. Your "current position" got a laugh, too. Funny how that works once you get into a good corporate gig.

QOL at the regionals isn't going to be much better than at a good charter or corporate gig where you're home every other night. If you do a lot of international or overnights with your charter flying, the QOL *can* be better, IF you live in your base.

If you don't live in-domicile, I'd suggest staying away from a regional if you have a "GOOD" charter or corporate job and get into Netjets as soon as possible.

I've done all of it (except military flying), and am in a position to where I have to go back to the regionals or charter again for a year or two, and I chose a charter job with 10 guaranteed days off a month and the ability to eventually grab a local Lear gig here in town rather than go back to the regionals, even as a street Captain.

The pay, schedule, and days off just isn't worth it if you've got a family and/or a job that pays significantly better (which virtually ALL of your CA charter gigs will and just about any Corp gig I can think of). 1st year MSA Saab CA pay is $43 an hour, 85 hour average credit = $3,855 a month and my buddy said they were averaging 11-12 days off a month in MEM as junior CA's.

If you're young (under 30) and want to wait for the 10-year NWA flow-through carrot, then I guess it might be a decent trade-off. Compass is taking all the RJ growth for a while, so you might be in a Saab for quite some time...

Just a few thoughts, take it for what it's worth. :beer:

 

[RedGuy]

Well, I don't have a sweet Corporate gig, I fly on-demand freight. I'm sure I do get home alot more than anybody at the regionals, but I never really know when I will be home. I do have a pretty good job, it pays well, and advancements are fairly quick, but living life on a pager is really starting to wear on me. Never knowing when your going to work is really hard on both your body and personal life. I also only get 4 days scheduled off a month, though they're always on the weekend and I do always get holidays off, since all the plants are shut down over the holidays anyway.

 

[XJohXJ]

Hey bud can you tell me if they plan to pay us the 75hr guarantee at 23hr or the 43hr captain pay? Also how do the flight bennies work with you guys? do we (family and parents) get them from day one? Thanx

No idea at all if it's FO or CA pay. Please let everyone know if you find out! This is all new for us, here.

Flight benefits for you and family start on day one. However, someone's gotta process your info, so it actually takes a week or two, depending. Jumpseat in back starts for you on day one, but CASS for up front also takes a while to process.

 

[flap operator]

FYI - Compass is not getting all the growth here. Mesaba is taking delivery of CRJ900s (28 more) and 15 more CRJ200s transferred from Pinnacle. LOTS of movment at XJ right now. By next fall, Mesaba will be back to the size it was prior to Ch11... is it really growth?


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