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Great news. Now there is finally a chance there will be at least 1 qualified pilot in the cockpit. Maybe I can start letting my wife and kids fly on Mesa.
NOT!:bomb:
 
SEVEN said:
Great news. Now there is finally a chance there will be at least 1 qualified pilot in the cockpit. Maybe I can start letting my wife and kids fly on Mesa.
NOT!:bomb:

I usually just sift through some of the threads with people who give out legitimate information and then also read some of the idiots and nerds that post. You are classified under the idiot and nerd section. You must be Chuck Yeager since you claim Mesa pilots are not qualified. I don't have to say much else than that your an idiot. It shows you as furloughed, huh, if this is true then is it that you can't find a job, can't get an interview, can't get through training, can't get QUALIFIED. Like I said your an idiot!!!!!

By the way, I work for Mesa, who do you work for. Your the typical idiot pilot, when you have a jumpseater you blame them for your company woes. Because of attitudes like yours, is partly the reason why this profession has backstabbers and selfish pilots. It must be someone elses fault. Get a job!!!!!!!
 
ImRickJames said:
Supple. Reason. Supple.

He was laughing at the fact that you can't spell any better than you can choose an airline to defend.
 
Excellent, good to know. Do you know if Trans States is CASS as well?..........

TSA Mgt said we could get CASS only if the UNION payed for it........needless to say we are NOT.

We hope that a reasonable deal will come down the pike but with us in negotiations and the previous actions of said "holding company" I wouldn't hold your breath.

We know this is a hardship on some jumpseaters......hope you all understand.
 
labbats said:
He was laughing at the fact that you can't spell any better than you can choose an airline to defend.

"Gobbles. Irony. Gobbles". WOW, how many times did you get beat up as a kid. By the way, idiot #2, I am not defending the airline, I'm defending the people I work with. Who do you work for?

Get a life, you almost have more posts than flight time.
 
ImRickJames said:
"Gobbles. Irony. Gobbles". WOW, how many times did you get beat up as a kid. By the way, idiot #2, I am not defending the airline, I'm defending the people I work with. Who do you work for?

Get a life, you almost have more posts than flight time.

Yea, I hope to see you on my jumpseat. You'll be welcome on, but expect a flight long lecture on why Mesa is a pathetic airline and your responsibility in making legitimate strides so it doesn't continue to underbid everyone partly because of its pathetic pilot contract. And by the way, I agree with your upside down elephant as I'm a former Republican. So I also have to wonder why you are defending one of the worst businesses that is anti-labor and cuts corners left and right like having pilots camp out in the airplane in the wee hours of the morning to save on hotel costs?
 
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Fly2Scuba said:
Yea, I hope to see you on my jumpseat. You'll be welcome on, but expect a flight long lecture on why Mesa is a pathetic airline and your responsibility in making legitimate strides so it doesn't continue to underbid everyone partly because of its pathetic pilot contract. And by the way, I agree with your upside down elephant as I'm a former Republican. So I also have to wonder why you are defending one of the worst businesses that is anti-labor and cuts corners left and right like having pilots camp out in the airplane in the wee hours of the morning to save on hotel costs?

First of all, If you had me on your jumpseat, I guarantee you would show some respect, because I wouldn't take your sh*t. Second, I'm at Mesa because its a regional job and I plan on getting a new job. You seem to want to make your regional a career. I am not defending Mesa and I don't give a sh*t about your company or your contract. What I am defending is the pilot group because I work with some good people. Is J.O. brutal, Yes! I just don't go around blaming anyone else for my woes. I learned that as a kid, don't make excuses, its pathetic.

If your union wasn't able to secure a good contract and your dumbass management can't make a profit or secure contracts, Blame them!! Your climbing up the wrong tree. By the way, yes, until I go to bigger pastures, I have a guaranteed paycheck and don't have to worry about my job. Thats called business, if its too much for you to deal with, leave your job and go work as an insurance salesman.
 
I think it is very creative to have pilots sleep on the airplane to save hotel costs. If only they would install a shower in those little rj's, you guys would be set. But for now just use a bunch of sanitary wipes to clean up.
 
ImRickJames said:
First of all, If you had me on your jumpseat, I guarantee you would show some respect, because I wouldn't take your sh*t. Second, I'm at Mesa because its a regional job and I plan on getting a new job. You seem to want to make your regional a career. I am not defending Mesa and I don't give a sh*t about your company or your contract. What I am defending is the pilot group because I work with some good people. Is J.O. brutal, Yes! I just don't go around blaming anyone else for my woes. I learned that as a kid, don't make excuses, its pathetic.

If your union wasn't able to secure a good contract and your dumbass management can't make a profit or secure contracts, Blame them!! Your climbing up the wrong tree. By the way, yes, until I go to bigger pastures, I have a guaranteed paycheck and don't have to worry about my job. Thats called business, if its too much for you to deal with, leave your job and go work as an insurance salesman.
A classic example of a very wrong attitude. The erosion of jobs at the majors and the quality of their contracts is partly due to the much lower excepted pay and work rules for aircraft flying the same routes and in some cases the same size (CRJ-900). It's bad karma on your part to not be concerned about the great divide in major and "regional" work conditions If you should get hired by the majors, don't be surprised if your position is furloughed and handed off to a "regional" pilot who has the same attitude that you have now. You're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Tell me where I'm wrong?
 
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You all are the prefect example of what mgmt likes about pilots.

You spend so much time cock-fighting with each other that you forget who's pulling the strings. I bet each one of is all "sucky sucky" when we want a ride. If you don't like a particular company, don't fill out the jumpseat form. It's your choice who you fly on.

No wonder corporate operations don't want to hire airline guys.
 
ImRickJames said:
First of all, If you had me on your jumpseat, I guarantee you would show some respect, because I wouldn't take your sh*t. Second, I'm at Mesa because its a regional job and I plan on getting a new job. You seem to want to make your regional a career. I am not defending Mesa and I don't give a sh*t about your company or your contract. What I am defending is the pilot group because I work with some good people. Is J.O. brutal, Yes! I just don't go around blaming anyone else for my woes. I learned that as a kid, don't make excuses, its pathetic.

If your union wasn't able to secure a good contract and your dumbass management can't make a profit or secure contracts, Blame them!! Your climbing up the wrong tree. By the way, yes, until I go to bigger pastures, I have a guaranteed paycheck and don't have to worry about my job. Thats called business, if its too much for you to deal with, leave your job and go work as an insurance salesman.



You are an idiot.
 
Hey Rick, Hows that 8 days off a month working out for you? Oh and have you flown an aircraft with an operating APU recently? I always see monkey jet with a huffer cart attached. Do you guys fly around with those or what?
 
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Rickjames,
thanks to the lousy contract that mesa accepted (I know for fear of the freedom air start / possible mesa shut down) the company has the lowest crew pay and lowest operating cost. The pay is rediculous. Now with some majors trying to slash cost they are putting up the managements of several regionals against each other in order to find the cheapest one that will play for them. So now all the regionals are trying to lower pay (called pay to play). The pay might seem fine if you're young and no family and house and no retirement to think about yet, however there are few majors jobs available and regionals are now a career choice, so the low and decreasing pay will be hurting you in a few years (don't count on getting that major job anytime soon, there are many more qualified candidates ahead of you).
So be proud of being at Mesa and lowering the standard of living of many
 
metrodriver said:
Rickjames,
thanks to the lousy contract that mesa accepted (I know for fear of the freedom air start / possible mesa shut down) the company has the lowest crew pay and lowest operating cost. The pay is rediculous. Now with some majors trying to slash cost they are putting up the managements of several regionals against each other in order to find the cheapest one that will play for them. So now all the regionals are trying to lower pay (called pay to play). The pay might seem fine if you're young and no family and house and no retirement to think about yet, however there are few majors jobs available and regionals are now a career choice, so the low and decreasing pay will be hurting you in a few years (don't count on getting that major job anytime soon, there are many more qualified candidates ahead of you).
So be proud of being at Mesa and lowering the standard of living of many

Actually I have a class date coming up and the company doesn't associate with regionals, so I'll leave you here talking about the same crap for the next several years. Good luck!
 
ivauir said:
Great news guys! Thanks for getting it done!


Thanks for a new MEC, who are getting ahead, getting things done, and are actually talking to management. There has been a changing of the guards with a much younger MEC, who are not entrenched with or in verbal shouting matches with management. They are hopefully forging a civil relationship that will help the guys who will be here, get a better contract.
 
Fly2Scuba said:
Yea, I hope to see you on my jumpseat. You'll be welcome on, but expect a flight long lecture on why Mesa is a pathetic airline and your responsibility in making legitimate strides so it doesn't continue to underbid everyone partly because of its pathetic pilot contract.

This has got to be one of the most sophomoric things I have ever read on this website. Jumpseat lecturing; now I've heard everything. Do everyone a favor and keep posts like this in the kiddie playroom, I mean Regionals Board.
 
SEVEN said:
Great news. Now there is finally a chance there will be at least 1 qualified pilot in the cockpit. Maybe I can start letting my wife and kids fly on Mesa.
NOT!:bomb:

Please dont let the comments of this person affect any of your jumpseats. Unfortunately people like that are making up for their own shortcomings by posting stupid comments

I appreciate the ride and will happily accept Mesa on our A320 jumpseats anytime
 
SEVEN said:
Great news. Now there is finally a chance there will be at least 1 qualified pilot in the cockpit. Maybe I can start letting my wife and kids fly on Mesa.
NOT!:bomb:

Dumba$$ Flamebaiter !!

Why don't you post your name so we can ensure you and your family are accommodated ??
 
While ALPA has told us CASS is active we haven't gotten any info from the company on taking CASS riders and so far Mesa guys trying to use CASS aren't having any luck. While CASS may be "on" until our GOM is updated we still can't take CASS.
 
lowlycfi said:
This has got to be one of the most sophomoric things I have ever read on this website. Jumpseat lecturing; now I've heard everything. Do everyone a favor and keep posts like this in the kiddie playroom, I mean Regionals Board.

Right, coming from a guy who probably hasn't been at the airlines very long based on your profile. You think a lecture is bad, then ask around as to what has happened to scabs at various airlines. Then a lecture will seem fairly pale in comparison. I think it's quite immature to accept and be proud of working at a lousy employer without putting up a good fight for better conditions. At least acknowledge the situation.
 
ImRickJames said:
What I am defending is the pilot group because I work with some good people.

That's exactly the point. Even Enron had some good people working in upper management. Mesa is a scumbag outfit and the Majority of pilots who work there are not good people. They will pay to fly and then work for worthless wages resulting in a downfall of the industry. The only thing they care about is flipping switches and wearing stripes on their shoulders. What say you? Tell me where I'm wrong?
 
Fly2Scuba said:
Right, coming from a guy who probably hasn't been at the airlines very long based on your profile. You think a lecture is bad, then ask around as to what has happened to scabs at various airlines. Then a lecture will seem fairly pale in comparison. I think it's quite immature to accept and be proud of working at a lousy employer without putting up a good fight for better conditions. At least acknowledge the situation.

First of all, I've been in this industry for 15 years now, how about you? I've worked for three different airlines and been in two unions. I've worked under two lousy, one average and one industry leading contract, so I don't really need a lecture in labor relations from someone who should be nothing more than a colleague. Second, I think it is a bit narrow minded to think that everyone at Mesa is happy with the status quo. Yes, Mesa has a lousy contract, but if you weren't so busy lecturing, you would probably find that the majority of Mesa pilots are fed up and chomping at the bit to change it. Yes JO is an anti-union CEO, but the majority of MAG pilots are not. How about toning down the disdain for the pilot group and show some support for your 2000 or so union brethren. At least acknowlege that Mesa is not going away and improving the contract will benefit all union members. Thanks for your support.
 
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