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rudedog: get back into the mesa airlines yahoo forum. welcome there. JO wants same pasy for all three CRJ, USAirways scope limits RJs to 68 seats or less, so JO wants to put the 700/900 on a separate NONUNION certificate to satisfy that. Of course that would make all the mesa pilot group unable to bid them.
 
Great...a non union company to operate CRJ700/900s and possibably 737s. What will they pay? $19/hr for FOs and $37/hr for CA? I hope this is not true. Getting rid of any union in exchange for bigger a/c is a very bad thing. :confused:
 
jetdriven,

What about flying the 700/900 for America West? Or would this "new" airline codeshare for both HP and U? What kind of pay is the company offering? Is it closer to the 200 or what the 900 should pay? They could always take 2 seats out of the 700 for USAirways, couldn't they?

Rudedog

P.S. Thanks for the invitation to come back!
 
rudedog:
the 700-900 plan is for AWA. but the problem is that AWA wants the crews to be able to cross-bid the -200 also. problem is the -200 are on the mesa certificate and USAirways the main codeshare scope limits aircraft with more than 68 seats. so JO wants to put the 700-900s on a new certificate, Freedom Air.
with the 68 seat thing the scope language is aircraft originally certified with more than 68 seats, -700 configured at MESA with 68, two taken out. So the -700 wont fly. Meeting on Jan 3 between johnny O and Wolf @ USAirways to relax the scope language, but the MEC at USAirways wants a BACKFLOW agreement with MESA, which I think is terrible. Look at CoEx and Eagle? looks like a **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** sandwich at this point!
Also MESA owns CCAir, flys DHC-8-100s, MESA proper has CRJ-200 and EMB 145, orders in for -700 and -900 CRJ, also, my division Air Midwest runs about 45 Be1900Ds. AMW and MESA share seniority list, CC does not. New petition for single group status for MESA, CC, and AMW. lot of **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** going on about that too. I am furloughed after upgrading in 3 months, so I have plenty of time to hit the yahoo board and surf the net. REPEAT, no plans to get 737s in the near or distant future. wild rumor. blue skies!
 
jetdriven,

Thanks for the info. Mesa is starting to sound more like a major everyday, both the good and the bad. Sorry about the furlough, I know how you feel, albeit on a different level. It's too bad the merry-go-round had to come to such a screeching halt for everyone. I didn't think I needed to build any more character, but I guess I was wrong. Furloughs being just part of the business doesn't make it feel any better either. But I'm looking on the bright side, at least we got Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years off!

Rudedog
 
Mesa Forum

Does anyone know how to get back into the forum. I keep getting a message telling me I'm not allowed into that club. I was a member already.
 
bigtexpilot,

I got a e-mail from Larry Toigo (system administrator?) that they were deleting inactive users (clogging up the system, I guess) and you have to reregister like you did to originally get into the forum. Haven't tried it myself, my New Years Resolution was to stay away from there. (The stress of too many futile arguments with JO was taking its toll on me and my family.) Good luck!

Rudedog

P.S. Any interesting news (700/900's, contract negotiations, etc.) posted here wouldn't apply to my self-imposed ban.
 
Rumours

I like to see all the gossip. I take everything with a grain of salt. Besides, I'm on reserve and have nothing else to do at night. Also, my Dad is an airline pilot and told me along time ago not to pay any attention to the rumours. The airline he has been with for 17 years was to go out of business in 1991. He is now in the top 10% senority.
 
Look at the MESA REALITY CHECK posting in this forum. Then give Andy Hughes a call. Also check out the US Airways Folly posting, for the complete text of the proposal he is in favor of.
 

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