Mesa recognized as best regional. Wins "Triple Crown" again

[Gr82Aviate]

It does not matter if you fly into a congested hub or not.
The time is a historical block. Just in case, let me give you an example.
ASA flys from ATL-AGS... it takes however many min?
They have done this flight for the last 30 years..... It is blocked for that length.
Now if they go over that block..... they are late.
Get it... Got it..... Good!

I've only been doing this for a few decades, but in my experience whenever there's weather the congested hubs tend to back up and cause longer delays that make flights go over block, than non-congested airports... Get it? Got it? Good!!

 

[Gr82Aviate]

And Charlotte, Dulles, and Chicago O'Hare are not congested airports or busy hubs. Got it.

Remind me again where I ever stated they weren't?

 

[dooork]

I've only been doing this for a few decades, but in my experience whenever there's weather the congested hubs tend to back up and cause longer delays that make flights go over block, than non-congested airports... Get it? Got it? Good!!

and its all figured into the average....one or two days of bad weather does not change your ontime performance much.....

 

[N4niner206]

Let's have a lil fun and compare:
Besides comparing Mesa to any big regionals that have core ops in the busiest hubs and still declare Mesa the "best" is laughable. Can u take your "best" ratings and get more flying and better wages from Orstein? Yea right.

No Gr82, YOU didn't, but it was implied by others. That was what my post was directed to.

Its funny... BHopper can't provide a valid argument against Mesa's on-time performance... so has to turn into something about JO and wages. If you can't make a good argument, change the subject... "Yeah, yeah uh well ummm you're ugly! So there!" Loser.

If you want to talk contracts, why not disucss our scope? No other regional (or otherwise, to my knowledge) has scope language nearly as protective. Not bragging, but why not discuss ALL of the contract, if that's your problem. Even though this thread has NOTHING to do with wages and contracts. I couldn't help notice how defensive BHopper is about Skywest when nobody had even mentioned them. Must have gone up for a second helping of the ol' Skywest Kool-Aid.

 

[Clutch]

How was "Freedom's" performance?...

 

[BHopper88]

No Gr82, YOU didn't, but it was implied by others. That was what my post was directed to.

Its funny... BHopper can't provide a valid argument against Mesa's on-time performance... so has to turn into something about JO and wages. If you can't make a good argument, change the subject... "Yeah, yeah uh well ummm you're ugly! So there!" Loser.

If you want to talk contracts, why not disucss our scope? No other regional (or otherwise, to my knowledge) has scope language nearly as protective. Not bragging, but why not discuss ALL of the contract, if that's your problem. Even though this thread has NOTHING to do with wages and contracts. I couldn't help notice how defensive BHopper is about Skywest when nobody had even mentioned them. Must have gone up for a second helping of the ol' Skywest Kool-Aid.

I was using my company, as an example, if you talk about kool aid, you sure are drinking the MESA brand.

Like I said before, Mesa only has 77 aircraft and 395 daily flights...
-With the 395 daily departures, how many of those are UA branded flights vs US branded flights? By having less flights, especially to some of the busiest airports, its skews the stats of being the best ontime "regional airline".
Being that this triple crown is done for all the ops of Mesa, im sure (thou just speculation) that the GO! ontime/completion stats help the numbers overall for Mesa.

For Skywest AIRLINES and SkyWest INC. with the UA ops in EVERY HUB, it becomes harder to maintain high DOT monitored stats when UA requests delays and cancelations on a bigger scale than what Mesa gets on the UA side. It would be the same argument with Skywest airlines having better ontime stats on the Alaska or USairways side of the operation than Horizon or Mesa.

Plus according to the DOT stats, Hawaiian is the best airline overall. Would you say that Hawaiian's stats are at all skewed to their advantage than the likes of Delta, United, or American since they have larger fleets and hub ops on the mainland vs Hawaiian having a smaller fleet and a hub in HNL?

If you want to compare the amount of SkyWest flights per hubs to show my point..
UA (1058 Total departures)
SFO - 143
LAX - 94
DEN - 129
IAH - 43
ORD - 72
IAD - 5

US (94 Total departures)
PHX - 47

 

[squall line]

For Skywest AIRLINES and SkyWest INC. with the UA ops in EVERY HUB, it becomes harder to maintain high DOT monitored stats when UA requests delays and cancelations on a bigger scale than what Mesa gets on the UA side. It would be the same argument with Skywest airlines having better ontime stats on the Alaska or USairways side of the operation than Horizon or Mesa.

Great, with that logic then, I expect Skywest to be number 1 in 2012 with all of that "easy" west coast flying you have underbid everyone on.

 

[dowhite2]

How was "Freedom's" performance?...

It was fine as long as Delta didn't precancel our flights....I loved the JFK Delta deicing plan.....cancel all the connection flights!

 

[rene]

Freedom

How was "Freedom's" performance?...

BTW, since you asked, although Freedom has been gone for three years. Freedom for the last 6 months of its contract with Delta was the number one "partner" in Delta's system. Why does the truth bother you so much. Mesa is now a different airline than the one you remember.

 

[rene]

Now look into the other 99% of their operation...[/QUOTE

Let's dumb it down for ya then, Mesa has more flights in phx
than skywest and performs better. Mesa has more flights in clt
than any other regional and still performs better than any of them.

Just to set the record clear. Mesa has ACARS, Mesa is the number one airline in the United system and has been operating in IAD and ORD hubs, Mesa is also the number one airline in the airways system and has been for 28 straight months. Number 0ne, in on time performance, D-0, and A-14, Number one in Completion factor, Total completion and controllable completion. It is not just our pilots, our maintenace has improved greatly, as has our SOC crew scheduling and dispatch functions. I for one actually enjoy working here. Why is that so hard for some here to understand?

 

[XPOO]

And SkyWest operates SEA, PDX, SFO, LAX, LAS, DEN, IAH, ORD, CLE, IAD hubs for United. And operates LAX, SLC, MSP, MEM, DTW, CVG hubs for Delta. What's your point? As your airline shrinks it gets more effecient? Shocking!!!!!

 

[N4niner206]

And SkyWest operates SEA, PDX, SFO, LAX, LAS, DEN, IAH, ORD, CLE, IAD hubs for United. And operates LAX, SLC, MSP, MEM, DTW, CVG hubs for Delta. What's your point? As your airline shrinks it gets more effecient? Shocking!!!!!

You all like to spin this around every single time. The article was simply posted... THEN all the Mesa-haters started bashing. And then you like to act like we're the jerks who made some kind of attack on your airline. Its like the bully blaming the smaller kid for standing back up and defending himself. And now, for this, the Mesa folks are at blame?

Ya'll have some serious self-confidence issues if you have to take an article citing Mesa's good performance and turn it into a Mesa-bash. Must not be so secure with yourselves afterall? I haven't seen much (if any) Mesa people going out of their way to bash others (SKYW, for example) even after we see our operation in PHX shrink and SKYW 200s come into PHX. You know why? Most of the Mesa folks know this is business, and we don't harbor any ill-will that SKYW was able to afford to under-bid us. Thats the name of the game.

So now, can someone tell me why the rest of these folks are so insecure or having such a hard time accepting that Mesa is improving its operation? Is it that you're afraid that it might be a little harder to get the rest of the USAirways flying, afterall?

 

[XPOO]

SkyWest did not underbid Mesa for the 50-seat flying in PHX. Mesa was going to give that up no matter what. It would help if you had at least a few of your facts straight. I couldn't care less. The writing is on the wall and we both see it. Enjoy!

 

[Mercyful Fate]

It is only a matter of time before SkyWest ends up with more US flying....On time is the best and only thing Mesa has going for it, just take a look at its balance sheet....

 

[Russ]

Xpoo
I'm a Skywest guy, and have access, or lack thereof to the same info you do. How can you conclusively say we did or didn't underbid Mesa? Opinion doesn't count. What you heard in recurrent doesn't count. What Chip mentioned in a water cooler chat doesn't count. Can you show some evidence one way or another. Note that I haven't said I believe one way or another.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Mesa sux

 

[COOPERVANE]

Also ASA sux

 

[N4niner206]

It is only a matter of time before SkyWest ends up with more US flying....On time is the best and only thing Mesa has going for it, just take a look at its balance sheet....

Oh, so you've seen the balance sheet, have you?? Please share.

 

[N4niner206]

Xpoo
I'm a Skywest guy, and have access, or lack thereof to the same info you do. How can you conclusively say we did or didn't underbid Mesa? Opinion doesn't count. What you heard in recurrent doesn't count. What Chip mentioned in a water cooler chat doesn't count. Can you show some evidence one way or another. Note that I haven't said I believe one way or another.

And regardless of whether or not Skywest underbid or not (its what we were told, but who knows) ITS BUSINESS. I have no problem with that.

Its the ATTITUDE of "Its only a matter of time before we have the rest of 'your' flying" that is bothersome. I've always found that attitude to be very juvenile, whether its directed toward my company or some other. It just amazes me how some people behave, yet still try to call themselves professionals. I suppose some pilots (or DISPATCHERS) never made it past a highschool mindset. You can argue all you want who works for the better airline, or CEO, or who has the bigger wang (dont forget, many of you are still flying RJs too!). The depth of your personality and character, unfortunately, is often worn on your sleeve. If I were unhappy or to lose my job, I can seek new employment. One's character is much harder to alter. For that, I have great pity for some here.

 

[ttuite]

Now look into the other 99% of their operation...[/QUOTE

Let's dumb it down for ya then, Mesa has more flights in phx
than skywest and performs better. Mesa has more flights in clt
than any other regional and still performs better than any of them.

This sums it up the best..... Why can't you Mesa haters just give them their due. You make yourselves look like a bunch of spoiled children. Grow up!