MESA or JB

[Smarta$$]

Ignore this jackoff. Here are the true facts.

9 month guys are holding airbus JFK lines now.

3 to 4 months to a line on the BOS 190.

Good pay.

He's right about the retirement and medical. I pay double what I paid at a regional for comparable coverage.

Retirement I could care less about. I take care of that myself through other means. The JB retirement is just a bonus.

You lost all credibility with me right there. Most of us DO care about retirement, even if it is just a bonus.

What "other means" make a company contribution unnecessary anyway?

 

[$$$4nothin]

You lost all credibility with me right there. Most of us DO care about retirement, even if it is just a bonus.

What "other means" make a company contribution unnecessary anyway?

I believe what he means by not caring about it is that he just isn't depending on it. Therefore it doesn't matter in his retirement plans and when he gets to retire.

 

[fifty30retard]

This is of course, assuming zero retirements, zero growth, and zero attrition.

Nice try moron, but once again, the reality is far different from the picture you paint.

Thanks for the complements. The most junior JFK line holding A320CA is exactly 1/3 down the seniority list. This is the manning model you work under, 6.5 pilots per seat with a 12% reserve coverage.

Enjoy perpetuity in the right seat with meager retirement and poor benefits. You may upgrade on reserve someday but that is a fate worse than death.

Good luck to you but if thinking about coming here, don't do it.

 

[Smarta$$]

I believe what he means by not caring about it is that he just isn't depending on it. Therefore it doesn't matter in his retirement plans and when he gets to retire.

A company funded retirement is very powerful. Even if you would be sufficient without it, it is the difference between retiring with X and XX. I want to have XX and it is pretty standard compensation for those in our position. To be content with X when XX is customary for our profession is unfortunate.

But, I would like him\her to explain why it isn't important.

 

[n757st]

Thanks for the complements. The most junior JFK line holding A320CA is exactly 1/3 down the seniority list. This is the manning model you work under, 6.5 pilots per seat with a 12% reserve coverage.

Enjoy perpetuity in the right seat with meager retirement and poor benefits. You may upgrade on reserve someday but that is a fate worse than death.

Good luck to you but if thinking about coming here, don't do it.

Did Dave piss in your Cheerios again? If I was a geeko I would be pissed too. If you think this is a crap aviation job you have obviously never had a crap job in aviation. Are there things to be improved? Absolutely! The way you are making it sound we are flying aircraft around for food stamp wages, 28 days a month, with constant threat of being fired.

Here's reality: Within 3 years you are paid 100,000 a year or more, enjoy ok if a little less then that benefits, and work 15 days a month. I'm making less and working more then a Swa pilot and I get that. I hope eventually we achieve parity with them. But yelping on a forum about how bad it is here when in reality it's not as good as you want it to be is disingenuous at best. Relax, take a breath, and realize that all this spouting by yourself does nothing to assist the next union drive. Rational, unemotional education is the ticket, not bluepilots.com style sensationalism.

 

[CapnVegetto]

A company funded retirement is very powerful. Even if you would be sufficient without it, it is the difference between retiring with X and XX. I want to have XX and it is pretty standard compensation for those in our position. To be content with X when XX is customary for our profession is unfortunate.

But, I would like him\her to explain why it isn't important.

To clarify, $$$4nothin had it right. I have my own plans and my own retirement independent from the company. I don't trust anybody and anything except myself. Company retirement is a nice bonus on top of what I already have in the works.

Trust me, saving for retirement is quite easy if you start young, don't accrue debt, and live within your means.

 

[fifty30retard]

To clarify, $$$4nothin had it right. I have my own plans and my own retirement independent from the company. I don't trust anybody and anything except myself. Company retirement is a nice bonus on top of what I already have in the works.

Trust me, saving for retirement is quite easy if you start young, don't accrue debt, and live within your means.

Good grief, an expert at retirement. Save enough and save early and you too can retire. Genius, just genius. Thanks for that pearl of wisdom.

 

[Smarta$$]

To clarify, $$$4nothin had it right. I have my own plans and my own retirement independent from the company. I don't trust anybody and anything except myself. Company retirement is a nice bonus on top of what I already have in the works.

Trust me, saving for retirement is quite easy if you start young, don't accrue debt, and live within your means.

We better all have our own retirement savings... That is not a reason to accept a poorly funded retirement for a professional job such as ours.

 

[dhc8fo]

Good grief, an expert at retirement. Save enough and save early and you too can retire. Genius, just genius. Thanks for that pearl of wisdom.

Yes, it is that simple. Wow.

OMG, now I know you really are a retard.

 

[spacecadet1]

If you're lucky, you'll be there when AA buys and staples JB. From blue dude to sky nazi! They'll probably have a supplement DD for JB