Mesa now loses the previously awarded Delta flying due to attrition

[rogerwilcoout]

Friend at Mesa says they lost the 14 CRJ 900 flying for Delta because Delta has realized that the pilot attrition is bad there at Mesa and they would not be able to staff the planes. Any truth to that?

 

[siucavflight]

Probably not. Maybe, yeah probably if you had a friend there say it.

 

[Prop2Jet]

And the let the regional demise begin!

 

[Ridgeback]

I doubt it, if that was the case 9E would have never got any flying for Delta

 

[belchfire]

We can always hope!

 

[Soverytired]

Friend at Mesa says they lost the 14 CRJ 900 flying for Delta because Delta has realized that the pilot attrition is bad there at Mesa and they would not be able to staff the planes. Any truth to that?

I doubt it. It certainly hasn't been announced yet.

 

[sktwstdfrk]

no word from J.O. on the company e-mail ... he loves to send those out. They are his rally cry e-mails. "We need to do better ... yada, yada, yada ... so we can cut costs ... yada, yada, yada ... and we can have job security ... yada, yada, yada." (Did I get my point across that his e-mails are long winded and boring)

 

[N4niner206]

I think your friend is mistaken. Many people at Mesa have mistaken the Comair award (14 CJR900s) as being the Mesa 900s (I guess because the coincidence of both awards being 14?) They were two separate awards... the 900s at Comair are to replace older -100 models, while the 900s to be operated by Mesa were additional capacity. Neither Delta nor Mesa has announced repeal of the award. The attrition was already an issue when DAL announced awarding the 900s to Mesa... THAT would have been the time to consider the potential problems. Incidentally, despite what many may think, Mesa pilots cringe at new flying right now because our staffing levels aren't ready for it.

 

[TAWS]

You are missing the point: The CRJs to MESA were awarded by the BANKRUPTCY JUDGE!!

That's right, as were the 9E CRJs. I'm sure DAL has some get out clause, should ability to perform become an issue. They were awarded simply on price, nothing else - hence the Comair award AFTER they exited BK - price wasn't the issue then, fattening up Comair for a sale was the issue.

 

[~~~^~~~]

If staffing was an issue, a 40 or 50 seater would be parked before a 900 got turned away.

 

[khsgt]

We don't have the pilots to cover what we already have, let alone any new flying. Substantially less newhires then attrition (75 pilots left in May, out of 1650), with no relief in sight. Lines on the ERJ averaged over 90 hours for the bid (28 days). Everybody is going to be timed out in mid Novemeber at this rate...

Those boys in PHX are burning this house of cards on their own, all the pilots have to do is their normal jobs to have this place crash and burn...:angryfire :uzi:

 

[atlcrjdriver]

Any truth that the AirMidwest unit is shrinking to transfer crews to the jet?

 

[Soverytired]

Any truth that the AirMidwest unit is shrinking to transfer crews to the jet?

Directly from the mouth of JO on one of his weekly updates.

I leave it to you to determine if what he said was true, half-true, or complete B.S.

(good luck with that)

 

[OB-CPO]

Any truth to the rumor I hear that the Mesa CRJ base has 6012 hrs of open time in June?

Whoa nellie!

 

[belchfire]

Any truth to the rumor I hear that the Mesa CRJ base has 6012 hrs of open time in June?

Whoa nellie!

Ya know, I wish I had a chance at some of that if it was at my company. Don't think I'll take a shot at it over there though!

In fact in face of this magnitude of failure to perform the battle cry from outside the moat should be "Let him eat cake!"

 

[Way2Broke]

Burn J.O. burn!

 

[Soverytired]

Any truth to the rumor I hear that the Mesa CRJ base has 6012 hrs of open time in June?

Whoa nellie!

Yes. But that reflects open time for all CRJ bases combined.

Remember though, guys bid hard lines knowing they're going on vacation, and that gets kicked into open time. Ideally, the company knows this is going to happen and plans on most of the open time going to reserve pilots.

However, Mesa is hardly "ideal." There's lots to pick up, and it's paid at 2x instead of the normal 1.5x. One small problem: With lines being built at 90+ hrs, it's hard to pick it up and be legal. And with reserve lines having only 2 days off, it's hard to get the 24 off in 7.