Mesa files ch11 bankruptcy

[Tweaker]

Hey hey, Reyney
"Delta cancelled the contract and disparaged Mesa'a reputation (maybe irreparably) A good example is the incorrect perception of pilots on this board. "

Uhh, ya. No one has any reason to feel negatively towards MEScAb. You are clearly emotionally invested there.

"In any case my point is this. Mesa is not what you may think (or may want to believe) either internally or externally. Many of us love this company and are determined to see that it survives. "

And there is the proof. A textbook case of Stockholm Syndrome. You have come to love your oppressor. Seek help.

How worn out are your kneepads, or for that matter your cock holster?

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Then "living to fight another day" is the best option...

What about living to sue another day?:laugh:

 

[DASHDRIVER]

cranky flier has some intresting thoughts

http://crankyflier.com/2010/01/06/mesa-files-bankruptcy-looks-to-shrink-by-nearly-half/

He talked to MESA legal and they said the contract cancelation thing is unenforceable.

 

[Fltlvls]

...says the guy who seems unable to form an actual sentence, use proper punctuation, or even put a space between individual thoughts.

Ahhhh..... the grammar police..Thank god your here!!!!

 

[ePilot22]

cranky flier has some intresting thoughts

http://crankyflier.com/2010/01/06/mesa-files-bankruptcy-looks-to-shrink-by-nearly-half/

He talked to MESA legal and they said the contract cancelation thing is unenforceable.

If it's so advantageous for MESA to file BK, why did they wait so long? (Thinking out-loud, not asked directly at DASHDRIVER)

Right now, Mesa has 177 airplanes to its name. Incredibly, a whopping 52 of those are parked:
20 Beechcraft 1900 19 seat turboprops haven’t been used for a long time
3 Bombardier Dash-8 turboprops have joined them
17 Bombardier CRJ-200 50 seat jets are sitting in the desert
12 Embraer ERJ-145 50 seat jets are parked

It's not like they just parked them yesterday. Mesa's sh!t has been stinky for quite awhile.

Something doesn't add up.





eP.

 

[DASHDRIVER]

In all honesty I have no idea why they waited so long. Knowing how JO does business I imagine he can't stand the idea of a court telling what he can and can't do. That and BK court is expensive and he probably tried to put all his vendors over his knee first to see if he could get the saving he wants out side of legal proceedings.

This really will work out only in JO's advantage. He is going to be able to drop all the fifty seater's he is paying for but not flying, cut costs to his vendors, slash at the labor groups, keep his 70-90 seat flying and position himself for more at bottom of the industry costs.

Horrible, but brilliant.

Regards,

DD

And as a retort to people saying I don't know what I'm talking about. Ask any Wholly owned US Air carrier or AWAC guy or CC Air what contract was shaken in their faces when asked for concessions. Claims like, we aren't of the top of the pay scales by that far..." are pointless. Airlines across the country had to come down to your wages because your contract exists. Its not about what you do for the company or the partner or what your performance metrics are. We are all professionals and do the best we can. Its about what we do for each other. If everyone lifts and stands together we don't move backward. If one group lays down and dies we get dragged back with them.

 

[CX880]

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This really will work out only in JO's advantage. He is going to be able to drop all the fifty seater's he is paying for but not flying, cut costs to his vendors, slash at the labor groups, keep his 70-90 seat flying and position himself for more at bottom of the industry costs.

Horrible, but brilliant.

Regards,
.

Mesa is over. Maybe not with this thing because it will be a hassle having to replace them but they won't get any more contracts when time is up. Not from Delta which has been in court with them for years, not from United which will only have 20 airplanes in April with them, and not from US Airways. The majors saw what cheap gets them.

 

[sniper]

Mesa is over. Maybe not with this thing because it will be a hassle having to replace them but they won't get any more contracts when time is up. Not from Delta which has been in court with them for years, not from United which will only have 20 airplanes in April with them, and not from US Airways. The majors saw what cheap gets them.

WRONG......

30 700s FOR ual

38 900s with another possibility of 37 more

and we do not know where GO Airlines will take them

if they come out of bk

 

[Metro752]

I wanna mustache ride!

 

[Popeye0537]

WRONG......

30 700s FOR ual

38 900s with another possibility of 37 more

and we do not know where GO Airlines will take them

if they come out of bk

UAL will pull them out with SKYW picking up whats left, USAIR will pull as many 900 out of service to reduce the airframes over 70 seat to comply with the agreement they signed with the pilot group.

Really, Go? You have like 3 aircraft out there and RAH couldn't make a profit running 70 seaters out there.

Mesa's done.