MESA and ACA may merge!

[Av8tor]

9:04AM Atlantic Coast Air upgraded at CSFB (ACAI) 11.05: CSFB upgrades ACAI to Neutral from Underperform following MESA's unsolicited takeover offer; while initially skeptical about the deal coming to pass, firm has learned that ACAI has extremely weak anti-takeover defenses, and when coupled with a disgruntled shareholder base that is very skeptical about mgmt's plan to turn the regional carrier into a low-cost airline, those low barriers make the odds of MESA's success in an offer quite high.

 

[Herman Bloom]

Dude

We are so screwed. Time to seperate the men from the boys.

Men( and Women, of course)...if you don't like Mesa's work rules, if you think their pay is a joke, if you really believe that their contract is bringing the industry down...then quit. If you have any self respect, any ambition, any vision...then quit.

And please spare me the "gotta feed my family" crap. I have a family too. But I also have balls and the will to better my situation.

Just being emphatic to prove a point. Think about it. And let's all hope that this does not happen.

Not looking good, though.

Dude.......

 

[House_X]

Dude

We are so screwed. Time to seperate the men from the boys.

Men( and Women, of course)...if you don't like Mesa's work rules, if you think their pay is a joke, if you really believe that their contract is bringing the industry down...then quit. If you have any self respect, any ambition, any vision...then quit.

And please spare me the "gotta feed my family" crap. I have a family too. But I also have balls and the will to better my situation.

Just being emphatic to prove a point. Think about it. And let's all hope that this does not happen.

Not looking good, though.

Dude.......

What are talking about...do you work for ACA? If you do, then grow some balls and get ready for a contractual trench warfare.
How about not caving in? How about supporting your union and fellow brethren? How about trying to keep the airline industry from becoming whored out to the lowest bidder?

Men from the boys? Are the men the ones willing to work for slave wages and slave workrules. Do you even have a copy of the ACA contract? When you see the JO contract you will weep like a grandmother.

If more and more ACA pilots have attitude like yours, then yes, we are truely screwed.

Let's stay unified and fight this one.....

House

 

[PadFull'oTrim]

Anyone else heard rumors that Wexford Holdings (parent of Chautauqua, Shuttle America, and Republic) might also be making an offer for ACA? It seems they also need gates at IAD and the ACA acquisition would secure that as well as protect their current and future interest in Airways, Delta, and United. It prevents another "low cost carrier" on the East coast.

This also provides some security just in case their is some future grounding AD on either the ERJ or CRJ.

 

[bogberto]

I think this is all about JO being pissed because ACA was going to beat him to the LCC market. This will slow that down a lil bit.

Contrary to a few junior jerkoffs on our board, I know of no-one at MAG who wants any other pilot group stapled to the bottom of our list.

I just don't see it happening. MAG will fall apart long before the ink can dry on this deal.

-B

 

[sleepy]

This is a good reason to hope that United gets liquidated soon.

 

[POKEY]

If there really are more companies that want to buy ACA, maybe the BOD at ACA will realize that the thought of ACA becoming another low cost airline is starting to scare the s@$% out the other airlines. And more than one company's mgt thinks that it will work.

 

[mckpickle]

Jesus fcuking christ this is EXACTLY what Lorenzo did when he was trying to take control of Continental? ( I can't remember if it was peoples or cal)

But that a$$ just sat back and watched his stock soar. Just like JO is doing with the ACA stock if a bidding war breaks out.

Those that do not remember history are condemed to repeat it.

 

[Floyd94]

This is a good reason to hope that United gets liquidated soon.

It is indeed, lets all go throw rocks in the engines of all the UAL planes...

 

[g159av8tor]

It is indeed, lets all go throw rocks in the engines of all the UAL planes...

That's just not cool to post. I know 1749 pilots (or there abouts) that have been on an emotional rollercoster when ACA's negotiations with UAL started stalling and we had to vote on a concessionary TA to beat off the wolves and defend our gates to keep any form of UAX business. Then, the plan was to all along break from the Titanic and create an LCC.

Now, my future was intrinsically tied to the survival of UAL. Thought that's not the case today, even with all I've been through the last 4 months (including a downgrade), I still wish no ill will on UAL. Why? Because more of us than just the sum total UAL employees would be devastated if they went out, the entire airline industry would feel it for a long time before recovery. I'm not insinuating government bailouts, but let UAL run its own slow natural course so we as an industry can adapt to their departure.

Tailwinds...

 

[Floyd94]

I was just kidding, it probably was in poor taste in todays economy, and for that I apologize. I know several UAL pilots and would never wish any ill-will towards them. So now that its been posted, bash away.

 

[dhc8ap]

Hey Guys?

How much lower are we gonna have to go? Are we ever going to plateau out of this downward spiral?

 

[46Driver]

How low can it go? Who knows? In my opinion, one of the things driving this spiraling descent is the main requirement to be hired at a career airline - PIC time. A F.O. knows that thousands of right seat hours are literally useless - the requirement is for multi-engine PIC time. There is no incentive to fight for a better contract - only a contract that has the possibility of expansion for the company and more captain slots.

 

[nimtz]

This is a good reason to hope that United gets liquidated soon.

Keep dreaming #ssclown!

 

[Anti-Matter]

How low can it go? Who knows? In my opinion, one of the things driving this spiraling descent is the main requirement to be hired at a career airline - PIC time. A F.O. knows that thousands of right seat hours are literally useless - the requirement is for multi-engine PIC time. There is no incentive to fight for a better contract - only a contract that has the possibility of expansion for the company and more captain slots.

The irony is that even PIC time doesn't even mean much these days. With only a handful of airlines hiring, 1000 hours of PIC time and a dime will get you a cup of coffee. Some regional pilots won't realize this until they wake up on their 40th birthday and realize -- wow, I guess I'm at this airline for the long haul, too bad we have such a crappy contract. (But at least I upgraded quick ten years ago!)