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Geez, it's like a self-cleaning oven around here . . . I don;t have to do anything but sit back and watch the show . . . .
 
ATA will be letting go 100 ground employees and 100 pilots (for now) as a result of this pull back.

We are not taking any more deliveries, and the military charters are decreasing. We have an L10 delayed in a D-check, another one coming due, 3 737-300's, about 16 B737-800's, and an equal number of B757's. These numbers are probably going to change. Rumor has it we'll be down to about 30 airframes. That means about 600-650 pilots left. We have about 850 active on the list now. The cuts are getting deep enough that displaced captains will be getting furloughed soon.

The impending liquidation/fragmentation of ATA is just a sign of things to come.

This industry sucks.
 
Ty Webb said:
Geez, it's like a self-cleaning oven around here . . . I don;t have to do anything but sit back and watch the show . . . .

To paraphrase you from a different thread..."ATA would be in better shape if Airtran's deal had beaten SWA's."

I still have no idea how that assertion makes sense. Please tell.


BTW, ATA is getting kicked way too much. I hope the situation starts to improve, SOON! I thought SWA and ATA had a good relationship going and it should be producing. I have no idea what the problem is.
 
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CitrusGuy said:
BTW, did anyone just notice that the retail price of gas in ATL just went up to $3.70 a gallon!!!
/Citrus

Looks like the UnAccountablility Dept. at AirTran got burned for not auditing their fuel contracts. They'll probably ask the pilots for concessions to cover this.

Can registered user, "Dave Siegal" from US Airways please weigh in on this issue.
 
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DonVerita said:
Looks like the UnAccountablility Dept. at AirTran got burned for not auditing their fuel contracts. They'll probably ask the pilots for concessions to cover this.

Can registered user, "Dave Siegal" from US Airways please weigh in on this issue.

From the FL Fuel Guru....the ATL fuel price showing on the release is NOT correct!!
 
HalinTexas said:
ATA will be letting go 100 ground employees and 100 pilots (for now) as a result of this pull back.

We are not taking any more deliveries, and the military charters are decreasing. We have an L10 delayed in a D-check, another one coming due, 3 737-300's, about 16 B737-800's, and an equal number of B757's. These numbers are probably going to change. Rumor has it we'll be down to about 30 airframes. That means about 600-650 pilots left. We have about 850 active on the list now. The cuts are getting deep enough that displaced captains will be getting furloughed soon.

The impending liquidation/fragmentation of ATA is just a sign of things to come.

This industry sucks.

As per Aviation Week & according to Dennison, ATA's code share w/Southwest has been a success. Tell that to the 200 that are being laid off. Your chairman is talking out of both sides of his proverbial mouth.
 
Airtran is a good company that is keeping there costs in line and offers a good product. There is still alot of room at Midway and competition is a healthy thing. Also the MSP market would have normally been a blood bath if you went in against NWA on that perticular route but since they are down on there luck right now its a great time for a challange from a LCC in the MSP market. I dont think they will be able to come after you like they did in the old days. At least not right now.

I dont understand the reduction in ATA service either. Its in all markets that we dont serve and we can feed each other with the codeshare agreement plus I hear there loads are good. All I keep hearing from the inside on our end is how well things are going with the codeshare. We have spent alot of money and time with ATA which shows me we do want them to do well. I am sorry to hear about the furlough of more Pilots upcoming. I was hoping that with all the good things I have heard from the codeshare, that they would be able to start recalling pilots on there end.

FWIW, I flew with a former ATA pilot on my last trip. He was already furloughed when he got the call. Really a good guy and we need to hire more ATA Pilots! Anyone from the Southwest Peoples Department reading this forum? Hello.................
 
Ty Webb said:
Geez, it's like a self-cleaning oven around here . . . I don;t have to do anything but sit back and watch the show . . . .

I have to say I like it much better when you insult instead of your fellow company men/women. You go right for the juglar, and I don't have get a copy of hooked on phonics to read your posts!!
 

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