MD-11 FO new hires at UPS

[B-atch]

Don't sweat it...Polar does this all the time. Polar currently has approx 50 current and qualified 747-400 pilots on furlough. Some of these guys live in ANC. I'm sure UPS will have no problem in attracting heavy, international experienced guys. Just because you're new doesn't make you INEXPERIENCED.

 

[TriStar_drvr]

... I'm sure UPS will have no problem in attracting heavy, international experienced guys...

Hey, I may have put on a few pounds, but I don't consider myself "heavy" yet!

 

[Gorilla]

Very true, guys transition successfully and fly the MD-11 just fine, but two things pop up.

First, the MD-11 is simply trickier to fly, period, than most other transports. Combine that with dog-doo ANC weather, and a complex international scenario off-base, it makes for a real workload.

Second, they want the FO to be a contributing member. It's possible to put a total schlub in the right seat, and if the Captain is sharp, they can operate a long time like that, but it shouldn't be the CA's job to babysit and/or instruct... the right seat guy should contribute nicely right away.

I too applaud what UPS is doing.

 

[b19]

Just Curious

I'd like to hear how big of a difference there is between the 10 and the 11, and what if any are the shortcomings of the 11 as compared to the 10.

 

[b19]

Not looking to start a fight, just educate myself as I have only flown one of the above, and wanted to hear some other opinions, thanks.

 

[Take A]

First...ANC?....c'mon guys...it's Alaska!! Yeah the summers are nice but what about the winters?? Any place where you have to have an engine block heater and plug your car in when you go into a restaurant so it doesn't freeze solid....and no women......can't be a good deal.

Second, yes new hires are going to the MD-11. A heavy pilot with international experience will have no problem. It's not that hard of a jet to fly.

They are also hiring management pilots right off the street into the LEFT seat (No prior MD-11 experience). Then making a check airman out of them in a few months.

How would you like to be a captain getting a checkride from a dude that has only been with your company 6 months....let alone a MD-11 pilot and part -121 captain for only 6 months? Those are the guys I'd be afraid of not the experienced guy who goes to the right seat.

 

[Prop2Jet]

What does it take to get on with UPS? Mins, knowing someone etc... give me your best explanation so I can start planning on a future with them- if possible!

Thanks
P2J