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Yea, but what if he doesn't!Then we're stuck with him.
Neither one of them are impressive. Pick your poison.
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BS ALERT!!!! BS ALERT!!!!
The facts:
John Kerry:..attempted to submit own paperwork for purple hearts for injuries that did not even require stitches....failed...resubmitted to an officer of higher rank than denying officer (and circumventing chain of command in process) and recieved purple hearts. Calls self a "war hero". Democratic party touts these "awards" and his record of service as tantamount to his qualifications to be president. Also not Irish. Leftist media loves him. Pro abortion.
John McCain: Irish. Gets shot down in Vietnam recieving bona fide injuries inflicted not only from the ejection, but from 5 years of captivity, to name a few: lacerations, broken bones, cigarette burns, elctric shocks, club beatings, rope tying and twisting, you get the point.
Is satisfied to have been of service to his country. Democratic party accuses him of "waving" his war record in our faces and says his service does not make significance in his ability to be president.
Leftisit media hates him. Pro life.
There's are bigger issues here than who will (supposedly) affect your broken pilot union. You can't blame Bush or anyone else for the mess you are in...you all did that to yourselves by signing weak contracts and caving in long before now. As long as people keep coming in and accepting your wages and conditions because you are "happy" to fly a jet...it's your own bed. Stop trying to blame everyone else for your bad choices. It's time to see what's good for America as a whole, not your own little pockets. Everytime someone brings up taking action to change things (I will not specify here, but you know what I am talking about), you call it unprofessional or whatever. But look....these same things were done by your predecessors and guess what? IT WORKED. They were making more money and had better conditions than you do and that was 20 years ago.
So dream on, vote for Obama, see what "change" will do. You'll be taxed more, he'll give your money to those who will not work, are here illegally, and you're union and your airline will be in the same darn condition.
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Umm why does it matter that he is Irish?
acaTerry
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Do I really need to explain that? Are you English?:laugh:
Rez O. Lewshun
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acaTerry... You are smarter than this....
McCain is running an image/ideology campaign. As you know in his RNC speech JM didn't discuss the issues. He sold a fairy tale. Funny how in 2000 McCain was no good due to the Rove attacks but suddenly in 2008 he is the White Knight.
Your thoughts on this...
CYNTHIA TUCKER
McCain relies on his image, avoids issues
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Sunday, September 07, 2008
John McCain has an impressive personal story. Imprisoned by the North Vietnamese for 5 1/2 years, mostly in the infamous “Hanoi Hilton,” he showed great courage, resilience and reservoirs of strength. It is the central narrative of his life, a theme he returns to again and again.
In choosing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate, McCain picked another politician with an interesting personal narrative. Hers isn’t heroic — as his is — but it is still inspiring. A mother of five, she overcame long odds to oust the entrenched Republican governor in 2006. When she and her husband learned their fifth child would be born with Down syndrome, they didn’t terminate the pregnancy. That’s a decision I and many other Americans find admirable.
McCain hopes those compelling biographies will be enough to take him and his running mate over the line in November. Since personality matters as much as (sometimes more than) policies — George W. Bush was elected in 2000 because he was Mr. Congeniality — the Arizona senator has decided to give short shrift to issues and go all out on charming personal stories.
“This election is not about issues. This election is about a composite view of what people take away from these candidates,” his campaign manager, Rick Davis, told The Washington Post last week.
So it’s no surprise McCain’s acceptance speech on Thursday night was heavy on biography and short on policy prescriptions. The short film that introduced him offered a romantic, Hollywood-esque arc: A rambunctious young man trying to earn his place in a family of war heroes goes off to the Naval Academy and becomes a fighter pilot; he is chastened by the torture he endures at the hands of his enemies; the young hero not only survives but triumphs, winning a seat in the U.S. Senate. It’s quite a tale, with the added dimension of truth.
McCain seemed most comfortable when he was speaking of the ideals he embraced in those years — honor, service, courage. But he was oddly lifeless and unconvincing when he rattled off a laundry list of domestic issues, touching on “school choice,” health insurance and taxes. That’s clearly not where his heart is.
Even less persuasive was his attempt to snatch the mantle of change from his rival, Barack Obama. (How many times did he use the word “change”?) McCain is 72 years old; besides, he is a card-carrying member of the Republican Party, which has held power for the past eight years. It’s hard to run as an insurgent if you’ve been part of the establishment.
The aging war hero apparently believes that he is still the “maverick,” the daring, even swashbuckling, senator who bucks an entrenched Republican machine to serve the interests of the people above the party — a “Mr. Smith” played by John Wayne instead of Jimmy Stewart. But that McCain gave up the good fight after his crushing defeat at the hands of Bush forces in the 2000 Republican presidential primary. Since then, the “maverick” has set about ingratiating himself to the same establishment he now vows to fight. He has adopted nearly every one of Bush’s failed policies.
Don’t be fooled by Palin. She’s just a fresh face to rev up the culture wars. She opposes abortion, even in cases of rape and incest; she urged an Alaska librarian to ban books; she believes “creationism” should be taught in public schools; she asked ministry students at her former church to pray for a plan to build a $30 billion natural gas pipeline in the state, calling it “God’s will.” In choosing her, McCain caved in to the rigid Christianists who now form the core of the GOP.
Still, his gamble could well pay off. Even in a year when voters say they agree with Democrats on most issues, the polls still show the presidential contenders virtually tied. It’s a very close race.
No wonder. The John McCain on display as he closed his speech, speaking passionately of duty and sacrifice, is still a compelling figure. That McCain, who has not always been on display this season, is a man who wants to resist partisanship, a man who wants to clean up corruption, a man who would shrink from the vicious attacks his campaign has, in fact, run against Obama. If voters believe in that McCain and think that’s all the country needs, he wins.
But if the campaign is fought on the issues, McCain loses. That’s why he stays away from them.
McCain is running an image/ideology campaign. As you know in his RNC speech JM didn't discuss the issues. He sold a fairy tale. Funny how in 2000 McCain was no good due to the Rove attacks but suddenly in 2008 he is the White Knight.
Your thoughts on this...
CYNTHIA TUCKER
McCain relies on his image, avoids issues
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Sunday, September 07, 2008
John McCain has an impressive personal story. Imprisoned by the North Vietnamese for 5 1/2 years, mostly in the infamous “Hanoi Hilton,” he showed great courage, resilience and reservoirs of strength. It is the central narrative of his life, a theme he returns to again and again.
In choosing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate, McCain picked another politician with an interesting personal narrative. Hers isn’t heroic — as his is — but it is still inspiring. A mother of five, she overcame long odds to oust the entrenched Republican governor in 2006. When she and her husband learned their fifth child would be born with Down syndrome, they didn’t terminate the pregnancy. That’s a decision I and many other Americans find admirable.
McCain hopes those compelling biographies will be enough to take him and his running mate over the line in November. Since personality matters as much as (sometimes more than) policies — George W. Bush was elected in 2000 because he was Mr. Congeniality — the Arizona senator has decided to give short shrift to issues and go all out on charming personal stories.
“This election is not about issues. This election is about a composite view of what people take away from these candidates,” his campaign manager, Rick Davis, told The Washington Post last week.
So it’s no surprise McCain’s acceptance speech on Thursday night was heavy on biography and short on policy prescriptions. The short film that introduced him offered a romantic, Hollywood-esque arc: A rambunctious young man trying to earn his place in a family of war heroes goes off to the Naval Academy and becomes a fighter pilot; he is chastened by the torture he endures at the hands of his enemies; the young hero not only survives but triumphs, winning a seat in the U.S. Senate. It’s quite a tale, with the added dimension of truth.
McCain seemed most comfortable when he was speaking of the ideals he embraced in those years — honor, service, courage. But he was oddly lifeless and unconvincing when he rattled off a laundry list of domestic issues, touching on “school choice,” health insurance and taxes. That’s clearly not where his heart is.
Even less persuasive was his attempt to snatch the mantle of change from his rival, Barack Obama. (How many times did he use the word “change”?) McCain is 72 years old; besides, he is a card-carrying member of the Republican Party, which has held power for the past eight years. It’s hard to run as an insurgent if you’ve been part of the establishment.
The aging war hero apparently believes that he is still the “maverick,” the daring, even swashbuckling, senator who bucks an entrenched Republican machine to serve the interests of the people above the party — a “Mr. Smith” played by John Wayne instead of Jimmy Stewart. But that McCain gave up the good fight after his crushing defeat at the hands of Bush forces in the 2000 Republican presidential primary. Since then, the “maverick” has set about ingratiating himself to the same establishment he now vows to fight. He has adopted nearly every one of Bush’s failed policies.
Don’t be fooled by Palin. She’s just a fresh face to rev up the culture wars. She opposes abortion, even in cases of rape and incest; she urged an Alaska librarian to ban books; she believes “creationism” should be taught in public schools; she asked ministry students at her former church to pray for a plan to build a $30 billion natural gas pipeline in the state, calling it “God’s will.” In choosing her, McCain caved in to the rigid Christianists who now form the core of the GOP.
Still, his gamble could well pay off. Even in a year when voters say they agree with Democrats on most issues, the polls still show the presidential contenders virtually tied. It’s a very close race.
No wonder. The John McCain on display as he closed his speech, speaking passionately of duty and sacrifice, is still a compelling figure. That McCain, who has not always been on display this season, is a man who wants to resist partisanship, a man who wants to clean up corruption, a man who would shrink from the vicious attacks his campaign has, in fact, run against Obama. If voters believe in that McCain and think that’s all the country needs, he wins.
But if the campaign is fought on the issues, McCain loses. That’s why he stays away from them.
Yes the Gang of 14 really ingratiated him with the GOP.
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Howdy Rez!
I think that your point is easily pointed back at Obama....all the talk of "change we can believe in". But even his website is vague on exactly what and how he will change.
So its essentially another darned campaign (on both sides) of "he did this", "he said that".....remember in school they taught this as mudslinging? How fresh it would be to have a campaign of nothing but a candidate telling their ideas and plans...not seeing who can throw more mud on the other.
So far as the issues go, I think McCain wins there, and Palin for that matter too, but then again you and I always have had opposing views to eachother there. So that really puts us in the Mexican standoff again.
Be safe out there
Terry
I think that your point is easily pointed back at Obama....all the talk of "change we can believe in". But even his website is vague on exactly what and how he will change.
So its essentially another darned campaign (on both sides) of "he did this", "he said that".....remember in school they taught this as mudslinging? How fresh it would be to have a campaign of nothing but a candidate telling their ideas and plans...not seeing who can throw more mud on the other.
So far as the issues go, I think McCain wins there, and Palin for that matter too, but then again you and I always have had opposing views to eachother there. So that really puts us in the Mexican standoff again.
Be safe out there
Terry
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Neither one of these presidential "candidates" have actually really covered any real issues. They just touched on "issues" that got people fired up in their respective conventions. It's all a big show and if you buy into any of it you're a gullible follower. Rez, make a list of things you'd like to see POTUS take care of and send it to him or her. Your concerns would never, ever be read or even considered. John and Barack could care less about common citizens like you and me but there you are voting for a Democrat just 'cuz. Like I said, pick your poison. They both suck.
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