McCain to lose pilot vote block.

[DonVerita]

I'm not sure how we read the same web page and drew two totally different conclusions. I, too, was suspicious of the 5% figure Flickerfade quoted, and ended up on Wiki trying to verify it. There's more involved, and it's worth anyone's time to check the link out.

First, foreign ownership was 44% of public debt in 2006 (higher now). The US government itself owns a little more than half of the $9.3 trillion debt. You read a Japan/China figure of 47%, but that is the percentage of foreign debt only that is owned by those two countries. I looked, but could not find the exact percentage that China owns, but it is less than Japan. The trend, however, is for more Chinese ownership and less Japanese.

I was only quoting foreign debt held by China and Japan since the original point being made had to do with China.

Regardless of who holds how much, the bottom line is that we are in a world of hurt.

 

[Ben Dover]

He is a socialist. Obama believes that we should give our money to the government and let them distribute it as they see fit for the greater good. Where does personal responsibility come into play?

Since you're so down on socialism I suppose you don't plan on cashing your Social Security checks when you get old? Or don't plan on using Medicare when you turn 65? If you lost your job or became disabled, would you accept unemployment or disability, as those are socialist programs?

And naturally, if your house caught on fire. You have your own fire protection arrangements, right? I mean, you wouldn't let a socialist program that takes tax payer money and redistributes it for the greater good, put out the embers of your burning home?

 

[FlickerFade]

I was only quoting foreign debt held by China and Japan since the original point being made had to do with China.

Regardless of who holds how much, the bottom line is that we are in a world of hurt.

Go back and read your posts. You said that Foreign Debt owned was 47% or "half" of all US debt. You were/are wrong. Both your link and my detailed link show that foreign ownership is in fact about 25% and that owned by China is less than 5% of the total.

Judging by your posts you really have no concept of national monetary policy.

Class warfare doesn't work. Jimmy Carter jr. will find out.

I'm an ALPA pilot rejecting the politics of class warfare.

 

[FlickerFade]

Since you're so down on socialism I suppose you don't plan on cashing your Social Security checks when you get old? Or don't plan on using Medicare when you turn 65? If you lost your job or became disabled, would you accept unemployment or disability, as those are socialist programs?

And naturally, if your house caught on fire. You have your own fire protection arrangements, right? I mean, you wouldn't let a socialist program that takes tax payer money and redistributes it for the greater good, put out the embers of your burning home?

We already pay an ess load of taxes for these things! Please let me know what percentage of my check you feel that you own?! A great reason not to vote for a socialist for President.

 

[SDF2BUF2MCO]

When your job gets shipped overseas, I guess it's your fault since you didn't have enough "personal responsibility".

Pray tell, what are the Dems doing to "right it"? Hillary was spouting about 1,000,000 new jobs. No doubt high paying jobs like Walmart door greeters, casino workers, and TSA personnel.

The Dem supporters are saying their party is the answer and the Reps do the same. It is like arguing about who is better, Walmart or Target? At the end of the day, they both pedal Chinese made stuff and the Yankee worker stills loses.

 

[atrdriver]

Oh really?

This pilot will be voting for Obama!


Take a look around. Our country is falling apart and all Republicans have done for the last 8 years is preach fear, hate, and venom about anyone who is less fortunate than themselves.

Maybe you need to take a look at www.moveon.org. If you want to see the textbook definition of venom and hate that is.

 

[pilotyip]

Looks like a solid block of pilots voters NOT!

 

[shootr]

This military, well-paid, "prima-donna" will not vote for McCain no matter who runs against him. I'd prefer Obama but I'll vote for Hillary if I have to.

 

[pilotyip]

Too bad

This military, well-paid, "prima-donna" will not vote for McCain no matter who runs against him. I'd prefer Obama but I'll vote for Hillary if I have to.

John is the man, he will get a lot of pilot votes and most likely is your next president. You will have to get used to it.

 

[PCL_128]

John is the man, he will get a lot of pilot votes and most likely is your next president. You will have to get used to it.

If Obama is the Dem nominee, then I give McLame about a 10% chance of winning in November. Obama is likely your next President. You will have to get used to it.

 

[pilotyip]

No one believed me when

If Obama is the Dem nominee, then I give McLame about a 10% chance of winning in November. Obama is likely your next President. You will have to get used to it.

Hey I predicted the 2007 hiring boom back in 2003, everyone said I was crazy, Just watch if John doesn't die, he is the man. BTW pilots will not vote as a block, there are a lot of pilot who like John. If I am wrong get ready to open your wallet for the underprivledged.

 

[PCL_128]

Hey I predicted the 2007 hiring boom back in 2003, everyone said I was crazy

Actually, I agreed with you on that. Probably the only time I've agreed with you about anything.

Just watch if John doesn't die, he is the man.

He'll win if Hitlery is the nominee, but not if it's Obama.

BTW pilots will not vote as a block, there are a lot of pilot who like John.

Yes, you're right. Many pilots are uninformed dimwits.

 

[UALjan15]

Just watch if John doesn't die, he is the man. BTW pilots will not vote as a block, there are a lot of pilot who like John.

You kind of remind me of a battered spouse who is afraid to leave her abusive husband. John McCain has already raised his hand to strike me on numerous occasions, and I'm not stupid enough to hope that he'll change when he gets in office. Show me a pilot for McCain, and I'll show you a pilot that doesn't give a rat's a$$ about his career.

 

[SaturnPilot]

John is the man, he will get a lot of pilot votes...

John is the man who thinks you are paid too much and lazy. John is the man who tried to pass legislation making it virtually IMPOSSIBLE for pilots to improve their pay / working conditions. Here's what John McCain thinks about globilization, taken directly from HIS website:

Trade and Displaced Workers

• Lower Barriers to Trade: John McCain believes that globalization is an opportunity for American workers today and in the future. Ninety-five percent of the world's customers lie outside our borders and we need to be at the table when the rules for access to those markets are written. To do so, the U.S. should engage in multilateral, regional and bilateral efforts to reduce barriers to trade, level the global playing field and build effective enforcement of global trading rules.

• Competitive American Workers:John McCain understands that globalization will not automatically benefit every American. We must prepare the next generation of workers by making American education worthy of the promise we make to our children and ourselves. We must be a nation committed to competitiveness and opportunity. We must fight for the ability of all students to have access to any school of demonstrated excellence. We must place parents and children at the center of the education process, empowering parents by greatly expanding the ability of parents to choose among schools for their children.

What do you think is going to happen regarding Open Skies if this turd is elected??? Do you really want to have to compete with Aero-Mexico on a JFK-LAX route?

Seriously...I have never been pro-dem myself, but this pilot will be voting for anybody but McCain so that I don't have to find a new trade in order to feed my family. I CANNOT IMAGINE why ANY pilot could EVER vote for this guy.

 

[viper548]

As an airline pilot and as an air force reservist, I will not vote for McCain. I don't want to get activated AGAIN for a war that is total BS. I made more as a FO at a regional than I did as activated enlisted.

I voted for Bush, both times, although I'm regretting the second time. For the first time in my life I will vote democrat. I'd prefer Obama, but I'll vote for Clinton if I have to.

McCain has too much of a temper to be in that high of a position