McCain Hates Pilots

[CitationLover]

I would bet if our country did a little expreiment with taxes, we would be swimming in money.

Everyone, that means everyone, pays 10% of their income to the Feds.

Cut Corporate tax rates to 20% for everyone from Microsoft to your wifes beautyshop.

National sales tax of ??% on all goods and services.

We are a consumer based economy. If you give people more money, they will spend more, thus raising revenue across the board.

Raising taxes, especially on the people that spend the most, is counterproductive and DOES NOT WORK!

While I agree with your sentiment, simplification of taxes has one nasty side effect: a simple tax rate is MUCH easier to raise. It's the one huge negative to tax simplification to me, thus we need a modicum of simplification but not a flat rate.

 

[fmr727drvr]

Don't you think that the certificate holder and their training department should have been the ones responsible for this? I was shocked to read how haphazard their training department was with this individual. It wasn't his fault that he was released to the line by numerous check airmen.

If you are talking about the airline he was flying for at the time of the accident, I agree completely. My point is he probably would never have been hired there if they knew about his failures and ultimate termination at his previous airline. Perhaps he would have pursued a different career, something that didn't require him to be responsible for so many lives.

The Pilot Records Act has subtly turned the screw down for the worse with regard to safety at small to mid-sized companies. Those that complain too much are rewarded with harder checkrides and disciplinary items included in their permanent records. This does not enhance safety.

I'm sure this is true at some airlines. Personally, I don't have any direct knowledge of this happening to anyone. Most people who have difficulty where I have worked get additional training and get through rather quickly. Actually, sometimes they give people way more leeway than I think they deserve.
I guess I would feel the same way you do if I had seen it firsthand.

 

[pipe]

Why don't you elaborate on your own torture experiences as a POW. We'd all be interested in knowing how you withstood brutal torture over many years. How you are proud of how you reacted to having your arms pulled out of socket. How you never cried or passed out or said something you wished you hadn't. Please tell us since you choose to stand in judgment of someone who has.

This is classless. I can't stand McCain, but I have the utmost respect for the fact that he survived POW camp.

That being said, so did thousands of others. They don't try to claim it as some sort of mantle of expertise on military affairs as McCain does.

PIPE

 

[skyaddict]

I love watching all the idiots who foisted 8 years of ineptitude courtesy of George W. on the United States and the world coming to the slow realization that this time around they're gonna have to pull the lever for McCain, Obama, or Hillary.

Karma is a b!tch.

If McCain becomes the Rep nominee, karma will take sweet revenge on the Dems too as they face a dilemma- vote for a bipartisan centrist or cast one for a throwback who could yield 28 consecutive years of Bush and Clinton dynasties (and who is certainly more liberal than Bubba).

As I've stated before, McCain vs Obama would be a class act- two standup guys, though one a center-right guy (except for Rush, Coultier and loons who consider him pinko) and the other ultra-liberal.

 

[FlickerFade]

This is classless. I can't stand McCain, but I have the utmost respect for the fact that he survived POW camp.

That being said, so did thousands of others. They don't try to claim it as some sort of mantle of expertise on military affairs as McCain does.

PIPE

In context of what I was responding to I don't know how you get "classless".

 

[FlickerFade]

"Hamburger" for President !!!

:beer:

PHXFLYR

Don't know where your quote came from, but Rumsfeld is a fmr. Naval Aviator.

 

[curtis46]

Hey! They're not "illegal aliens"!


They're "Guest Workers."

Hey!they're not hookers
they're "working girls"
you guys are killing me.

 

[skyaddict]

McCain doesn't come off to me as primping his POW experience (savage as his was) as somehow giving him a mantle on national security. However, he has specialized in national security for years as a senator, and he deserves some credit for seeing the flaws in Rumsfeld's non-strategy (and also seeing a way to repair the damage other than cutting and running) long before it became popular within the administration. Heaven only knows where Iraq would now stand had someone like Gates, and not Rumsie, been at DoD's helm from the outset.

 

[CitationLover]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five

 

[CA1900]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five

Yep. How soon people forget...

 

[Sedona16]

If you are a pilot and you are trying to figure out how to reverse the downward spiral of the piloting profession I have no idea why you would vote for McCain. Just remember one of the only true measures of leverage we have as pilots is the threat of a strike (this akin to BK judges on managements side....and they used them liberally this last round). If McCain is in office you think he is going to allow the "greedy pilots" to get anywhere near a strike and therefore force the issue with pay rates and work rules?

"Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), the former Republican presidential candidate and head of the influential Commerce Committee, opened a high-profile hearing by making clear there is plenty of blame to spread around. He cited "greedy" pilots, airline overscheduling, plodding regulators and politicians, and a public that resists new runways and airports for noise and other reasons."

 

[Sedona16]

PS- My personal opinion is that McCain lies through his teeth. His little "straight talk" song and dance has had holes poked through it all up and down on both sides already. Some people around here need to wise up. His service was greatly appreciated (and yes he does play it up from time to time). That event was then, this is now and this is the Presidency that entails the economy (which he recently admitted he knows little about) and host of other things (along with the ability to strike) on the line. I have always voted republican (much to my chagrin with Bush). If McCain is the Republican nominee I will vote for Obama.

 

[BOOZENEWS]

They did before 9/11 hit. Contract 2000 had end of contract top payrates of 345/hr. It's sad that so many pilots have already forgotten where our pay used to be. Everybody thinks current Fedex pay is the be all end all yet it's WAY below prior pay at Dal and Ual. We're our own worst enemies....

So true!! It's amazing that in 2006 the Fedex and UPS guys settled for far less than UAL 2000 yet both these corporations are far more profitable now than UAL, AA, DAL, etc were in 99-00!!

It is painfully obvious that the paycuts at the legacies put downward pressure on contract negotations at Fedex and UPS.

As good as your contract is at Brown and Purple, you NEVER should have accepted ANYTHING less than than the highest legace pre-9/11 plus inflation.

I hate to say it but the guys at brown and purple got played. Not trying to rag anyone down, just calling a spade a spade.

 

[AlbieF15]

Okay...I'll bite.

Part of the reason FDX and UPS guys chose those carriers over other options was A) long term stability due to the business model and B) a history of less labor strife.

I'm sorry if your bet on UAL or DAL didn't play out like you wanted, but a lot of guys decided to go with SWA or cargo company because THEY DON'T FURLOUGH as much.

$300 bucks an hour for captains is nice, but how long (really!) did those guys make those rates? Conversely...how long has a SWA captain or UPS captain who has been steadily employed for the last 7 years done?

I'm all about max pay for pilots. I put my money where my mouth is--and got involved in our union. However, what you need to look at besides PAY RATES is long term career earnings. There are different ways to get there...

We'll all pull together. But you can't look to everyone at other places to fix your compaines issues.

 

[pipe]

McCain doesn't come off to me as primping his POW experience (savage as his was) as somehow giving him a mantle on national security. However, he has specialized in national security for years as a senator, and he deserves some credit for seeing the flaws in Rumsfeld's non-strategy (and also seeing a way to repair the damage other than cutting and running) long before it became popular within the administration. Heaven only knows where Iraq would now stand had someone like Gates, and not Rumsie, been at DoD's helm from the outset.

Just saw a tv ad that started out with a picture of McCain in POW camp, talked about him being a POW, and then said that he's ready to be Commander-in-Chief because of it. (paid for by his candidacy)

You were saying?

PIPE