Maybe something good?

[Spooky 2]

As of this hour, 18:30 MDT, both the NWA and DAL pilots are together discussing the pending merger. They are staying at the Stein Erickson Lodge, (5 Star of course) in the bar as I write this and laughing and scratching while spending your dues money for a good cause...I hope.

To bad they are so obvious to all the on lookers!

Nothing ever changes.

 

[Sinca3]

Doubt it at $500 a night but hey!! Maybe some incintave for more people to get involved within the ranks of ALPA.

http://www.steinlodge.com/accommodations/general_rates.php

 

[PCL_128]

It's $185/nt this time of year. Pretty reasonable, IMO.

 

[Sinca3]

It's $185/nt this time of year. Pretty reasonable, IMO.

Yeah I guess I should have scrolled down........

 

[PCL_128]

BTW, the most progress is always made at the bar over a few drinks. If the reps are laughing and drinking, then that's probably a good sign. Formal meetings are tense and sometimes downright angry, but work can get done at the bar.

 

[Fubijaakr]

All real Union business is conducted at the Cigar/Martini meeting AFTER the MEC has adjourned for the day.

 

[FL510in10min]

Where is the Stein Lodge?

 

[General Lee]

Where is the Stein Lodge?

At Deer Valley---a ski resort in Park City, UT. Stein Erikson won a medal at some Olympics way back when, and he opened a nice lodge and ski skool.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[ACL65PILOT]

The PWA will probably be done fairly quickly as last time. It is the SLI that will take months if not years.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Stein won gold so long ago, that those winter Olympics were in the mountains of Greece, before the Roman Empire!!!

cliff
YIP
PS-I'd like to take my kids to Deer Valley next year-see how the $ situation is...

 

[JAM-BRO]

I thought that the meetings this week were going to be held in ATL.......

 

[FDJ2]

The PWA will probably be done fairly quickly as last time.

It's easy for DALPA and NALPA to agree on the PWA, getting management to go along with it might be more difficult.

 

[nonstop]

It's easy for DALPA and NALPA to agree on the PWA, getting management to go along with it might be more difficult.

Considering the half billion alone in cross fleet synergies the company would save I'd say the leverage is on our side. My fear is we're asking far too little, as evident by that lack luster LOA Moak negotiated and the DAL pilots approved.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I think that you will see a bigger percentage pay raise this time around. This or a scale that allows for bigger pay raises for the life of the PWA. (Dependent on the companies financial performance) Kind of like our last one. Hopefully we will not put a stop gap clause in there that allows them to take back wages with poor financial performance.

 

[GogglesPisano]

How about better scope?

How about real furlough protections?

The junior guys couldn't care less about a pay raise when they're staring a furlough nose to nose.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

As much as I love a no furlough clause they really are not worth what we give up in the negotiations. They will furlough if they want to. They will always find a reason that we did not address to do it. Just as TK. I would prefer to keep more of our top end and bottom end flying in house. That alone is job protection. Remember that not just RJ flying is being outsourced. Look at all of the code share flights that we are doing over the pond. At one time we would be the ones performing that flying. Now we just achieve the revenue generation the same way we do to small and medium gauge cities. Through a code share. That is truly our greatest threat. Fix this and you fix our issues of being furloughed.