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Man jumps to his death from Stearman

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MAN JUMPS TO DEATH FROM PLANE OVER EL CAJON

(03-30-2004) - A suicidal 88-year-old man on a flight chartered by his son as a birthday present jumped to his death from a biplane despite efforts by the pilot to restrain him, authorities said.

The man, identified by the county Medical Examiner's office today as Joseph Harold Frost of Carlsbad, climbed out of the dual-wing plane as it flew near Gillespie Field airport in El Cajon about 4:45 p.m. Monday, according to investigators.

Frost's body was severed as he struck a power line and landed on the enclosed patio of an apartment complex in the 300 block of East Bradley Avenue, San Diego sheriff's spokesman Chris Saunders said.

The man's plunge through the utility lines caused power outages to about 4,000 customers in the neighborhood, authorities said.

Several witnesses watched the man fall to his death, but no one on the ground was injured by Frost, Saunders said.

Frost, who celebrated his 88th birthday two days ago, was recently diagnosed with a tumor that was causing him to go blind, authorities said. His son chartered the flight as a birthday gift, Saunders said.

After the 30-minute flight over East County, the Steerman PT 17 plane headed back to Gillespie Field, piloted by Willis Allen, owner of Allen Airways Flying Museum, Saunders said. That was when Frost stood up in the front seat of the open plane and tried to jump, he said.

Allen told authorities that he argued and struggled with Frost to pull him back inside the plane, and even pitched the plane's nose up to force him to sit down, Saunders said.

But Frost was determined and managed to jump when the plane was about a half-mile from the airport and about 300 to 400 feet above the ground, Saunders said. He was killed on impact, Saunders said.

Allen landed the plane safely and reported the incident to sheriff's officials based at the airport, Saunders said.

linky dink
 
No doubt the snake lawyers will find a way to sue Boeing, the power company, the seatbelt manufacturer, the pilot, and every other 'deep pocket' they can find. Doesn't help that it happened in Kalifornia.
 
There's no such thing as gravity, the earth sucks.
 
Suicide by Stearman

This has got to suck for the pilot, I can only imagine how this will effect him. If the pilot is one of our members,.....My thoughts are with you. Don't let it get you down.

Seek counseling. One of my close relatives is a cop, and although he has never been on the shooting end of a "suicide by cop" event, he tells that they are told to seek counsel if it happens to them, even if they don't feel the immediate need. The same goes for railroad engineers. I live in a railroad town, and know that the engineer/conductors who experience a railroad crossing auto fatality need council after the event.

We're with you,
enigma
 
can you imagine, sitting in your apartment, hearing a loud THUD from the patio area... looking out, and seeing two halves of a body?! talk about trauma..
 
can you imagine, sitting in your apartment, hearing a loud THUD from the patio area... looking out, and seeing two halves of a body?! talk about trauma..
Just like a freaking pi·ña·ta.
 
FSB99 said:
can you imagine, sitting in your apartment, hearing a loud THUD from the patio area... looking out, and seeing two halves of a body?! talk about trauma..
That's what I wondered when I read it! That and the quote that noone on the ground was hurt! I know that this is tragic, but how would that news story read? "Man killed by lower torso of suicide jumper severed by powerlines."

*shudder*
 
I think that I'd rather hit the ground than get severed by a powerline. I would think that you would have a tendency to at least feel the "getting cut by the powerline part" a bit more than the impact with the ground.

Oh well... Darwinism at work yet again I suppose...
 
Just wait: the feds will nail the pilot for dropping objects... :rolleyes:
 
I think that I'd rather hit the ground than get severed by a powerline. I would think that you would have a tendency to at least feel the "getting cut by the powerline part" a bit more than the impact with the ground.

Oh well... Darwinism at work yet again I suppose...

I doubt he saw or felt it. As a skydiver I can imagine that he either had his eyes closed, was dead from heart attack by then or was unconcious.

You also have to factor in what 120 miles an hour in free fall is like without gogles on...your eyes tear up pretty good and you can't see nothing.

Plus, he was probably falling faster than 120 miles an hour since he didn't have a jumpsuit on...he didn't feel or see those lines striking him.
 
The clincher will be whether it's for one object or two....
I'm sure if you picked up the pieces and placed them in a grocery basket, you would not be able to check out in the "20 items or less" lane.
 
Sorry FN FAL, not a skydiver here. You may be right about the heart attack/unconscious thing. But personally, if given the choice of being severed or impacting the ground, I'm going with the latter.

And not only will the pilot get nailed for dropping objects, but he'll probably get nailed for not having passengers wearing seatbelts while landing.
 
Frost's body was severed as he struck a power line ...
Severed from what? Does this author understand what "severe" means?

transitive senses : to put or keep apart ; especially : to remove (as a part) by or as if by cutting
intransitive senses : to become separated

What was it severed from?

He was killed on impact, Saunders said.
It sounds to me like he was killed by being sliced in two by the power line. I doubt the impact mattered.

Ouch.
 
IRONIC?

FN FAL said:

You also have to factor in what 120 miles an hour in free fall is like without gogles on...your eyes tear up pretty good and you can't see nothing.

It sounds like he jumped due to the tumor in his head that was eventually going to render him blind, but jumping also can cause this.

Dooooh!
 
I was brought up to believe that suicide is both cowardly and selfish.

I don't want to argue the cowardly point here, but it sure as hell was selfish. Think about the trauma he put the pilot and his own son through. They will be emotionally scarred for life. The rest of the family probably ain't too thrilled about it either.
 
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FL000 said:
I was brought up to believe that suicide is both cowardly and selfish.

I dont' want to argue the cowardly point here, but it sure as hell was selfish. Think about the trauma he put the pilot and his own son through. They will be emotionally scarred for life. The rest of the family probably ain't too thrilled about it either.
Not to mention the person who's patio suddenly contained something that definitely wasn't BBQ
 
Boeing was obviously negligent in producing an aircraft whose flawed design allows suicidal people to exit the cockpit. The pilot is negligent also for not specifically instructing his passenger not to jump to his death.

I mean really, shouldn't there be a placard?

Humor aside, what an a$$hole. Totally selfish, irresponsible geezer without the common coutsesy to "off" himself discretely (Read that NO body) after leaving a note for his family to help ease their pain. Nope, let's traumatize several people, create a bunch of lawsuits, and spoil the fridge items of several thousand people. What a tool.

Rest in Pieces. :)
 

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