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English said:
List the company name as well...and a phone number, if possible. I'm sure those of us with alot of time on our hands can make some persuasive phone calls on your behalf ;)

don't forget e-mail... then go to a place like www.whatever.ru and sign them up LOL :D ... just kidding.

Happened to my wife once, they still owe her $200. Actually since they have canceled the check we were even charged by our bank LOL... I still feel like going over to them and leave a few marks on their car, but with my luck, I would look dumb trying to explain it on my inteview how I got arrested.

I say forget it.

edit: reading the rest of the posts... if it is a decent pay check than I would also go for the small claims court. Make sure you watch a few series of Judge Judy just to be prepared ;)
 
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Re: Several thoughts...

TIS said:
First, you are entitled to your money. You performed the service and you had an agreement to be paid for that service.


Whenever my job is finished and the amount of money owed to me isn't in my hands on the agreed time frame I get very hyper. It's no longer *your* money, it's mine and I'm going after it just as if someone stole it right out of my house or wallet.

As far as going to the Dept. of Labor, I got ripped off several years ago for a months pay by a scumhole of an idiot in North Dakota and the Labor board told me that all that was due to me *legally* was the current minimum wage scale for the hours (no overtime) that I worked.

Good luck, hope you get YOUR well deserved money.
 
Put a lien on the airplane if you have documented service.

I second that, a contract Capt. I know had to do that as well, and when the owners got the lien notice things changed. He got paid for his time and the attorney fees for filing the lien.
 
Small claims court or lien on A/C

Small claims court is for this kind of thing. The hassle factor might make them pay up.

If it is revenge you want and you worked under the table. Be sure to report the income under the section 1090 as a contract worker and report the company to the IRS if they don't report your services rendered. They will have fun with the audit.

A company owed me around $800 when I left for a 121 commuter in 1984. I just let it go. Although, I scratched the top of my right hand pulling some freight out of a cargo hold and still have the scar. When I notice the scar I sometimes think of how I got hosed by that company!

Good luck
 
I had a problem similar to this with a 135 employer who'd I'd worked for for two years. During that time, I saw what happened to every other pilot who left that job, and vowed it wouldn't happen to me. The employer would withold the last paycheck invariably.

I made sure to document every minute I worked during the last few weeks...including obtaining copies of company invoices I'd written students for instruction from those same students.

Sure enough, a month went by without a paycheck, despite repeated calls deflected by the call-screening secretary. I also sent a certified letter to their mailing address (a p.o. box...how convienient for them), which they refused to pick up for three weeks. Still no paycheck ($1300 for the last week of work).

I called the local (un)employment office and asked them how to proceed. They advised me to contact the State Wage & Hour office with a claim. I did, providing extensive documentation of wages owed, per-diem owed, the company's pay structure (the aviation industry often has unusual compensation calculations), and copies of pay stubs from previous weeks' labor and corresponding weekly schedules to corroborate my claim.

I can't say enough about how this office performed. They sent a letter to my previous employer, to which the manager was required to respond. I think my paycheck and the letter they sent both arrived at their respective destinations on the same day, so my efforts may not have been necessary. Neverless, I waited a few days to cash the paycheck just to keep a little pressure on the previous employer. Perhaps they'll be less likely to pull this on the next guy...probably not though.

The lesson...document everything before leaving an employer in this industry. It pays. Perhaps not applicaple in your case, but the experience dealing with this will stay with you.
 
Document, Document, DOCUMENT!!!

The lesson...document everything before leaving an employer in this industry. It pays.

This is a little off subject but I'll add it anyway.

I'd take this thought a stpe further and say document EVERYTHING abnormal, unusual, or contentious all the time. Don't wait until you leave.

No matter who you work for you'll come up against some marginal situations. When you do document each occurrence in detail. You never know what patterns will emerge whe you put them all together after a time. Nor do you know what you might need to use to defend yourself if the FAA (or anyone else) starts looking into you and your affairs.

Personal record keeping is a good idea in this business because there's an awful lot that people SAY the essence or implication of which never goes on paper unless you put it there. You never know when you'll need to say to the chief pilot, "...but you said, on April 4, 2002, that I should shut the APU down THIS way."

Never ceases to amaze me the look they get on their faces when the realize what you've been keeping notes on and to what level of detail. It's a nifty rabbit to be able to pull out of a hat.

TIS
 
the solution to all your problems

you....a wooden bat....some ugly lookin pipe hittin brothas....and a smack-talkin midget speakin hype.


umm i third or fourth the lien. he pays for all the expense and it gets his attention. if normal matters fail, get the legal matters. if they fail....id go with the brothas and the midget.
 
I know you have a right to the money. A few years back, my sister had the same thing happen to her (non-aviation related) and she talk to a lawyer friend. He said this was an extremely easy case. She was entiled to full payment immediatly and if not payed he would be liable for much more. With that letter she got her money promply. The amount extra she would have received would have been worth the suit.
 
Re: Thanks

EatSleepFly said:
Thanks for the advice, everyone.

I like the prop lock idea....;)

Unfortunately, the Dept. of Labor and/or the BBB wouldn't do anything for me. They were paying me under the table while they "acertained whether or not they had a use for a legitimately employed pilot." Apparently they don't.

I guess I won't see the money...best I can do is to warn others. If a guy named Jim in the Cleveland area offers you a part-time gig flying a V35B, run away. Its not worth it.

Agreed. Just walk away from it.
 

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