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Makes me wish I'd gone the cargo route

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DC9fo making 172,000 in 2004??WTFO


By LJ-ABX "Let's say you're a 3rd year DC9 FO making $99 per hour. Your guarantee is $6435/mo, $77,220/yr. If you pickup a trip on a day off you'll get a minimum of 4.5 hours which is $445.50 plus the $46 per diem. There are trips which pay over 8 hours in a day (deadhead legs are paid at full pay) so you could make as much as $800-$825 plus per diem for one extra day.

A lot of guys pick up a couple of trips per month which could give our 3rd year F/O an extra $14,000-$15,000 per year with per diem. Some guys really load up on the open time and can nearly double their base salary. I know one 5th year DC9 F/O who made $172,000 in 2004. 767 F/Os who fly that much are over $200,000 but that will take a bit more than three years of seniority."


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SWA baby!! Leave the boxes to FDX and Brown.
 
I flew with a guy on my last trip that made 320,000 last year... Did he have a life? Not at all, and he paid $100,000 in Federal Income Tax. Not worth it to me.
 
shagadelic said:
I flew with a guy on my last trip that made 320,000 last year... Did he have a life? Not at all, and he paid $100,000 in Federal Income Tax. Not worth it to me.

I'm single, an F/O at FDX, and I'm getting killed in taxes each month. I need to go buy some kids or something.
 
shagadelic said:
I flew with a guy on my last trip that made 320,000 last year... Did he have a life? Not at all, and he paid $100,000 in Federal Income Tax. Not worth it to me.

Then he's not getting good tax representation.....


We'll gross 400k this year....and I expect our tax liability to be less than 20%.

As quick as one loophole closes, another opens....
 
Not that I want to be obliterate your post on ABX or anything, just an FYI of what one can do at SWA on our days off.
I'm a 6th year F/O and the way my schedule fell for Nov/Dec I had the last 10 days of November off and the first 5 days of December. Last week I picked up a 4 day block of reserve ($103.09x24) and didn't get used at all. The very next day scheduling called and offered me a VJA (time and a half) trip for 2 days with an unscheduled overnight ($103.09x28.9) I don't usually pick up much however, with the holidays and vacation coming up I figured I'd go ahead, plus it helps the company out by picking up on days off.
Anyway, my point is that I just made an additional $5453 by helping out the fine company I'm so fortunate to be a part of while still enjoying the generous amounts of time at home they afford us. Life is not so bad.
 
Hoke said:
Not that I want to be obliterate your post on ABX or anything, just an FYI of what one can do at SWA on our days off.
I'm a 6th year F/O and the way my schedule fell for Nov/Dec I had the last 10 days of November off and the first 5 days of December. Last week I picked up a 4 day block of reserve ($103.09x24) and didn't get used at all. The very next day scheduling called and offered me a VJA (time and a half) trip for 2 days with an unscheduled overnight ($103.09x28.9) I don't usually pick up much however, with the holidays and vacation coming up I figured I'd go ahead, plus it helps the company out by picking up on days off.
Anyway, my point is that I just made an additional $5453 by helping out the fine company I'm so fortunate to be a part of while still enjoying the generous amounts of time at home they afford us. Life is not so bad.
Yeah, but you had to look at a bunch of passengers
 
Yeah and F/As too!!!
 
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I think that ABX and SWA are similar in this regard. At both companies you can make a significant amount of money by picking up extra trips on your days off. Works well if you don't mind giving up a lot of your time off.

I rarely pick up any additional flying myself. Almost two years ago I wanted to make a big purchase so in a 30 day period I picked up about 80 hours of additional pay credit which was a little over $10,000 before taxes.
 
LJ-ABX said:
Works well if you don't mind giving up a lot of your time off.

:)
You don't have to give up a lot of time off.
 
Old women? Right, we are not talking about TWA here...this is SWA!! Babes, all of 'em.
 
this is SWA!! Babes, all of 'em.
I DH on SWA all the time and all I see are fruit loops, not that there's anything wrong with that.

I've never picked up any stinkin' trips on my days off. I can find much more enjoyable things to do with my time rather than get radiated in a giant beer can, to each his own though.
 
Purpledog said:
I can find much more enjoyable things to do with my time

Yep. I agree. I only pick up open time on the rare occasion that I want to buy something that doesn't otherwise fit in my budget. Last time I did was almost two years ago.

What I'd like is the deal that they have at SWA where you can drop trips as long as someone else picks them up.
 
LJ-ABX said:
What I'd like is the deal that they have at SWA where you can drop trips as long as someone else picks them up.


We have that at AWA as well. An electronic trade board where you post your trip and if someone wants it they just pick it up via computer/laptop. Scheduling is not involved in any form. Nice, but it's tempting to give away your paycheck every month!
 

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