Majors wont be hurting/Regional on the other hand!

[chqflyer]

If you are required to answer, you are on duty per the Whitlow letter. You'd better check the legality of that.

It hasn't been implemented for pilots yet. The F/A's have it in their CBA. It was part of that insulting offer they company put out. You're right, I don't see how it could possibly be legal. Little things like legality rarely stand in the way of some of the boneheaded decisions made around here.

 

[Leroy Smith]

It hasn't been implemented for pilots yet. The F/A's have it in their CBA. It was part of that insulting offer they company put out. You're right, I don't see how it could possibly be legal. Little things like legality rarely stand in the way of some of the boneheaded decisions made around here.

And yet, people are still showing up for class.

 

[wms]

I am a front line employee. Planes can't fly without my work group (MX). More than one work group is involved in making an A/C leave the ground. Sorry your QOL sucks.

I used to be a mechanic and know the importance of a full force of front line employees. With mechanics and others there is more flexibility like overtime, extra shifts and covering for coworkers, until the shortage becomes extreme. With flight crews, everyone has to be there or the plane doesn't fly. As far as more shifts, overtime etc, many of us are already at the max and flights are getting cancelled for staffing. I don't know when I saw a flight get cancelled because the maintenance shift wasn't fully staffed. Mechanics are no less important than the flight crews, but there are more staffing solutions in non-flight crew work groups. That and the amount of time to train qualified reinforcements is why the industry is in a panic over the pending pilot shortage.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

I don't know when I saw a flight get cancelled because the maintenance shift wasn't fully staffed.

What about when they Ops Checked Good and slung you a "repaired" airplane? Seen plenty of those. PLENTY.

 

[Freebrd]

Thanks. All the hard working people that work to make flights get out on time earn their money. Obviously it would be nice to earn more! t.

Always respect mtc, scheduling not at all, dispatchers not at all, management well just look at SH and there's your sign.

 

[Mercyful Fate]

Always respect mtc, scheduling not at all, dispatchers not at all, management well just look at SH and there's your sign.

Why no respect for crew skd and dispatchers?

 

[chqflyer]

Why no respect for crew skd and dispatchers?

I think it was a tongue in cheek kinda comment. It's just poor form to be rude and disrespectful to other employees that are pretty much in the same boat just trying to do their jobs. I've never understood why some guys feel the need to go ape******************** on schedulers or mechanics.

 

[Freebrd]

Most dispatchers useless, they're only there because of FARs, a lot of pilots rely on dispatchers to make their decisions for them sadly. Schedulers? You have to ask why nobrespect? Really?

Ps It's different at the minors Mercy, I'm sure it's better in at leastnone of these areas atbthe majors

 

[Mercyful Fate]

Most dispatchers useless, they're only there because of FARs, a lot of pilots rely on dispatchers to make their decisions for them sadly. Schedulers? You have to ask why nobrespect? Really?

Ps It's different at the minors Mercy, I'm sure it's better in at leastnone of these areas atbthe majors

Are you drunk? This post is awful

 

[Freebrd]

I don't drink, it's how I feel about them. I avoid them as much as possible.

 

[Mercyful Fate]

I don't drink, it's how I feel about them. I avoid them as much as possible.

So what is your excuse for the awful spelling and typing?

 

[Freebrd]

no excuse, you win the prize, proud?

 

[Mercyful Fate]

no excuse, you win the prize, proud?

Yea, I am very proud..very easy prize to win obviously. Kind of funny how you talk down to other work groups, and yet, do it in such a poor manner. What does that say for you?

 

[Freebrd]

So, why are YOU on the regional board giving us your opinion on something that's of no concern to you. Are you one of those ex regional guys that got the call to the big league, and like that kid who graduates from HS returns the following year at FB games, dances etc, and can't let it go or stay away? Glory days? :laugh:

 

[jetstream]

In the short term the pilot shortage will be felt only at the regional level. Long term it will hit the legacy's as well. Here's how/why:

1. The legacy carriers squeeze their regional partners so much that they can barely make a profit, if that.
2. Because of this squeezing the regional pay is low and QOL is poor.
3. Due to item 2, people stop learning to fly and stop pursuing airline careers.
4. Hiring at the legacy's pulls pilots from the regionals and the regionals are unable to fill the vacancy's.
5. Regional airlines continue to exist but shrink dramatically. I see them flying fewer but larger aircraft i.e. CRJ900/E-175. Staffed mainly by senior pilots who due to age etc. choose to stay at their airline rather than start over at a legacy.
6. Eventually, legacy carriers will have hired all the pilots they can from the regionals but still need more. Problem will be there aren't any more. They have exhausted that pool of pilots, see item 3.

At this point I don't know what will happen but it could be any of a number of things.
A. Legacy's will buy their regional partners in order to obtain the pilots.
B. Another raise in the retirement age.
C. Ab-initio training programs.
D. Single pilot flight decks with the right seat filled by a person trained to run flows, check lists, QRH, and talk on the radio, etc.
E. All airlines legacy and regional alike provide the same amount of lift but with fewer pilots by serving cities with larger aircraft and less frequency.