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Reebo said:
Oh really??? care to elaborate????
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I don't follow basketball anymore but one example would be Ron Artest, when he jumped into the crowd to fight with fans. Thats the guy right?

EDIT: This took two seconds to find.
http://www.electro-mech.com/team-sp...-who-had-trouble-with-the-law/comment-page-1/

You know a sport is full of thugs when they have to send rookies to school to teach them how to stay out of trouble.
Yeah thats classy, where do I get in line to buy tickets so I can support these morons.
 
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Here's another NBA Thug!!!!!!!!!!

http://amcharities.org/

There are plenty of good role models in professional sports for our kids to look up to. You're doing a disservice to the league if you paint every player as a Ron Artest. Look at what Alonzo Mourning is doing in the community.

I am sure we can get a pretty good list going of what other Professional Pilots have done in the court room. That doesn't make all of us child molesters or rapists or wife beaters....
 
vixin said:
Those that contribute the least to society make the most, those that contribute the most to society make the least. ie: athletes, actors...teachers, firemen. Look at the annual parade magazine in the Sunday newspaper. Every year they have a what do people make segment.
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Then those who feel like they contribute "the most" to society, wouldn't mind picking up the collective decrease in tax revenue generated by these athletes if said athletes wages were brought more in line with those "important" people. Right? Or pick up the slack in the millions and millions of dollars donated to charity every year by the "uncontributers"?

Just because they may not provide a necessary service, they contribute to the economy and society in different, but still important ways. To think they don't pull their fair share is emotional nonsense.


timmay said:
I don't follow basketball anymore but one example would be Ron Artest, when he jumped into the crowd to fight with fans. Thats the guy right?

EDIT: This took two seconds to find.
http://www.electro-mech.com/team-sp...-who-had-trouble-with-the-law/comment-page-1/

You know a sport is full of thugs when they have to send rookies to school to teach them how to stay out of trouble.
Yeah thats classy, where do I get in line to buy tickets so I can support these morons.
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What about the Delta FO who was arrested for nearly beating his wife to death? That's just one example. You can Google "Airline pilot arrested" to find many more. Does that mean the airlines if full of drunks, wife beaters, child molesters, etc? No, it means in any collective group, you'll have some bad seeds. And they're the ones who make the news.

I don't know about rookie school, but given that many players are young, come from a poor background with nothing and all of a sudden are given millions of dollars and thrust even more into the spotlight, I don't see where giving them some formal advice on how to handle it all is such a bad idea.
 
Corbon said:
Then those who feel like they contribute "the most" to society, wouldn't mind picking up the collective decrease in tax revenue generated by these athletes if said athletes wages were brought more in line with those "important" people. Right? If you are dumb enough to think an athlete contributes more to society because of a bank roll you are a complete idiot. Lets pay the teachers what athletes make. Ill gurantee you the money will be put to better use. Or pick up the slack in the millions and millions of dollars donated to charity every year by the "uncontributers"? They give their time in very unrewarding (financially that is) careers. Anyone can throw money around.

Just because they may not provide a necessary service, they contribute to the economy and society in different, but still important ways. What do you think would be done if we reversed the pay rolls. Same amount of money? Just going to people that give a damn about the future of our children. You are not very bright. To think they don't pull their fair share is emotional nonsense. No! Just didnt think your idiotic response through.
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Another clueless FI member.
 
vixin said:
Another clueless FI member.
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I'm trying to use logic in my post, not emotional fantasies complete with sweeping generalizations and I'M the idiot? You suggest paying teachers millions of dollars a year, but I'm clueless? I'll brush off that idea as a hypothetical situation because nobody with the brainpower to turn on a computer would suggest that in serious conversation.

But I'm curious. Why would the money be put to better use if teachers made millions? Does being a teacher come with having good financial sense too? What do athletes do with their money that is stupid? Do you track their spending habits? What is an acceptable use to you?

Do you have a problem with athletes making millions a year? You do realize their paycheck doesn't come from the government or some sort of magic money tree, right? PEOPLE pay them by watching them use their talents. So when you can fill up an arena or stadium regularly to watch a teacher give a lecture on algebra, and charge people hundreds and thousands of dollars to do it, then you can have your million dollar teachers.

It sounds like you believe sports teams are a drain on society and there is no economic benefit to have them. Did you ever think of local economies that prosper when people flock somewhere to watch a game? Or all the jobs that are created from the existance of professional sports? Or the universities that benefit from the athletes that are gunning for the pros, who, in turn, can award scholarships, loans, grants, etc? Every kid dreams of his shot at the pros and all the way up, organizations benefit off of his hard work and talent. Think of the big picture, not a tiny slice of the pie.

In case you haven't noticed, MONEY makes the world go around. Not time. Anybody can throw time around. Homeless people must be rich in your world, since they have an abundance of time. In the real world, time is something everybody has, but not all have the luxury of "throwing money around". Your rebuttal to my point of noting that millions and millions of charity dollars would be lost if athletes made teacher salaries would be laughable if you didn't really believe that. Sure, what they do is noble but do you think all the kids in the hospital with leukemia would rather have an idea instead of actual money going to research their diseases and work towards curing them? You don't think they see the benefit of a baseball team donating a portion of its ticket sales to the Ronald McDonald house? But you think it's more important that someone knows what an iscosceles triangle is. If you really believe what you posted, the same teachers you are defending have tought you to look at the world through a peephole, not by opening the door. Did they teach you the proper way to disagree with someone is by name calling?

"Hello, VISA? Yes, hi, I'd like to pay this months balance in my time. WHAAAT? You only accept payment in the form of money? But some guy on the internet said time is more important than money!"

The majority of pro-athletes could be a teacher, but no teacher could be a pro-athlete. Why do I feel confident saying that? Because if they COULD be they WOULD be. And why would they be, outside of an obvious dedication to their sport? MONEY! Nobody is going to work hard enough to make it to the pros then voluntarily stop because he cares more about little Johnny getting a good education than a multi-million dollar contract to play a game.

Everyone can play a sport. Only a select few can get rich doing it. No need to be jealous.

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What do you think would be done if we reversed the pay rolls. Same amount of money? Just going to people that give a damn about the future of our children. You are not very bright.

I would say it would be no different than any other segment of the population. Some would spend it foolishly and others would invest it wisely. But don't you think that the lure of financial wealth would attract individuals who are only in it for the money and couldn't care less about a childs future? Would you rather have someone who can accept a small paycheck and feel rewarded by the satisfaction they get by teaching their students properly or someone who just cares about getting a fat check? Please answer this. I'm sure you thought it out the possible consequences of such a scenario. Right?
 
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Wow! You got me on the use of a comma. Oh the humanity. It has been proven that over 65% of professional athletes in Football, baseball and basketball still support their affiliated gangs financially. Now there is good use of that money. I dont think many teachers, firemen or police officers would do that. While all professions have their bad apples some have more.

I also know of several excellent teachers that have left the profession because they couldnt raise a family on that income. Those are the teachers I want to stay. I could go on and refute your idiotic staements, but you arent worth the time.

Why is this on the majors forum?
 
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Heyas,

Can't stand the MLB, NBA or the NFL. I show my disdain by avoiding ALL of their products.

If I want to see baseball, I go see one of the many minor league teams. Free parking, $5 to get in the park (and I sit where I want), and tuesday is dollar beer day.

Can't beat that.

One of my alma maters decided to drastically reduce their science and engineering offerings in order to save their miserably bad football and basketball programs.

When they call grubbing for money, I told them it would be that a frigid day in he!! before I gave them one nickel, and I hoped that the next time a hurricane hit New Orleans, the campus was flooded in a sea of nasty river water and irony (the science and engineering alums gave some of the highest amounts).

Nu
 
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jonjuan said:
And ALPA is "taking it back."
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Still waiting for ALPA to do for you what you can't or won't for yourself? Pay your dues do you? Got that 100% guarantee or your money back mentality from the Mall?

ALPA can be doing it better.... but so can its membership.....
 
vixin said:
Wow! You got me on the use of a comma. Oh the humanity. It has been proven that over 65% of professional athletes in Football, baseball and basketball still support their affiliated gangs financially. Now there is good use of that money. I dont think many teachers, firemen or police officers would do that. While all professions have their bad apples some have more.

I also know of several excellent teachers that have left the profession because they couldnt raise a family on that income. Those are the teachers I want to stay. I could go on and refute your idiotic staements, but you arent worth the time.

Why is this on the majors forum?
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Actually I didn't mention anything about your grammar, spelling, or punctuation in either of your previous posts, but I do find it ironic that you run around calling me an idiot, while your sentences look like they were typed by someone who looks like they put very little effort into at least trying to sound somewhat intelligent.

It's been proven that 65% of pro athletes support gangs? Really? Who proved that? Nobody, right? It just happened. Just got proven, out of the blue. Well, it's also been proven that nearly 85% of teachers are child molesters. Those excellent teachers, of whom you speak, probably left teaching because they blew all their money on sexual escapades with their underage students. See how easy it is to make things up?

I think what you intended to say is "I could go on and refute your idiotic staements but that would require I have any clue as to what I'm talking about".

Don't worry, you're not wasting my time. I'm on a four day trip, so this entertainment you're providing is a good time killer.

I'll bet you fell for all that "hope and change" nonsense too, didn't you?
 
vixin said:
Wow! You got me on the use of a comma. Oh the humanity. It has been proven that over 65% of professional athletes in Football, baseball and basketball still support their affiliated gangs financially. Now there is good use of that money. I dont think many teachers, firemen or police officers would do that. While all professions have their bad apples some have more.
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Where did you hear that, FOX News????
 

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