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Know your landing gear emergency procedures cold.
 
Even better....don't work for LYNX. They pay BELOW standard, and you are just shooting yourself in the foot for a 'career'.
 
Anyone that will accept a position as a Captain for $50.00/hour isn't using good judgement for their own career or the future of airline pilots in general.
 
I'm not going to work for Lynx but thanks for the insightful coments. Does anyone have some useful information?

Thanks
 
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At least 87 people die as a budget airliner crashes on landing


I believe there is no scientific correlation between a pilot's compensation and ability to pilot an aircraft safely. If you are talking about a budget airline as a whole then why doesn't jetBlue, Airtran, SWA, or Frontier have more accidents?
 
TheInsider said:
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At least 87 people die as a budget airliner crashes on landing


I believe there is no scientific correlation between a pilot's compensation and ability to pilot an aircraft safely. If you are talking about a budget airline as a whole then why doesn't jetBlue, Airtran, SWA, or Frontier have more accidents?
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Airtran did. Mind you it wasn't the captain's fault, she did everything right once she knew she had a fire. She was murdered by the company she worked for, and therein lies the real lesson: if they're not willing to pay you what you're worth, what else do you think they might be skimping on?

Alaska 261 is another good example. Not a LCC obviously but AS trying to get their mx costs down directly led to that accident where the pilots essentially did everything correctly and still died.
 
Since the topic is drifting, let me drift back towards the original subject at hand, Lynx.

Why do you want the gouge if you're not gonna work at Lynx!? "For a friend?" Well tell your "friend" they better not plan on jumpseating at Horizon, we're in negotiations right now and our mgmt is jumping up and down with glee at having $50/hr Q400 captains to compare us to.
 
It didn't help us at CJC when they used an average between Horizon and Lnyx.
It's too bad that Frontier's ALPA didn't have enough clout to stand up to managment and make that a mainline airplane. Another blow to ALPA and another windfall for managment. I realize that ALPA can only do so much, but was it anymore than a feeble attempt by Frontier "mainline" to keep the Q-400 on their property.
I am still at a loss to explain why a 50-seat RJ captain makes more than the Captain of a Q-400???
This industry truly does suck...Time to get out the Acme Truck Driving app. again. Good luck Lynx...You're going to be the goats at DEN this winter
 
Kaman said:
It didn't help us at CJC when they used an average between Horizon and Lnyx.
It's too bad that Frontier's ALPA didn't have enough clout to stand up to managment and make that a mainline airplane. Another blow to ALPA and another windfall for managment. I realize that ALPA can only do so much, but was it anymore than a feeble attempt by Frontier "mainline" to keep the Q-400 on their property.
I am still at a loss to explain why a 50-seat RJ captain makes more than the Captain of a Q-400???
This industry truly does suck...Time to get out the Acme Truck Driving app. again. Good luck Lynx...You're going to be the goats at DEN this winter
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Ahhh, what? Frontier is not an ALPA carrier. Other than that small part of your statement I agree with everything else you said.

-Blucher
 
DashTrash400 said:
Airtran did. Mind you it wasn't the captain's fault, she did everything right once she knew she had a fire. She was murdered by the company she worked for, and therein lies the real lesson: if they're not willing to pay you what you're worth, what else do you think they might be skimping on?

Alaska 261 is another good example. Not a LCC obviously but AS trying to get their mx costs down directly led to that accident where the pilots essentially did everything correctly and still died.
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But her career up to that point was not stellar.
 
Kaman said:
It didn't help us at CJC when they used an average between Horizon and Lnyx.
It's too bad that Frontier's ALPA didn't have enough clout to stand up to managment and make that a mainline airplane. Another blow to ALPA and another windfall for managment. I realize that ALPA can only do so much, but was it anymore than a feeble attempt by Frontier "mainline" to keep the Q-400 on their property.
I am still at a loss to explain why a 50-seat RJ captain makes more than the Captain of a Q-400???
This industry truly does suck...Time to get out the Acme Truck Driving app. again. Good luck Lynx...You're going to be the goats at DEN this winter
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According to the training dept. at CJC we will be joining them in DEN. It will be one big GOATROPE!
 
Kaman said:
It didn't help us at CJC when they used an average between Horizon and Lnyx.
It's too bad that Frontier's ALPA didn't have enough clout to stand up to managment and make that a mainline airplane. Another blow to ALPA and another windfall for managment. I realize that ALPA can only do so much, but was it anymore than a feeble attempt by Frontier "mainline" to keep the Q-400 on their property.
I am still at a loss to explain why a 50-seat RJ captain makes more than the Captain of a Q-400???
This industry truly does suck...Time to get out the Acme Truck Driving app. again. Good luck Lynx...You're going to be the goats at DEN this winter
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Mainline pilots are too good to fly props anyway. Try and find an AA Flowback in an Eagle turboprop.

Under your logic, CAL should be flying the Q400's that your company is getting. So, go ahead and light yourself on fire for taking a mainline pilot's job...dork.

Frontier pilots did not want to fly the Q400. Lynx is to Frontier as Horizon is to Alaska, jacka$$. Same goes for every other regional that is flying under a mainline's colors.
 
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DashTrash400 said:
Airtran did. Mind you it wasn't the captain's fault, she did everything right once she knew she had a fire. She was murdered by the company she worked for, and therein lies the real lesson: if they're not willing to pay you what you're worth, what else do you think they might be skimping on?
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Kinda like SWA before 2001. One of the lowest paid in the industry. After looking at their record setting accident history, you can definitely see a direct correlation in pilot pay and accident rate. Boy, you sure are 100% right.

FedEx gets paid near the top and look at their accident rate. For a while they lost an average of 1 widebody/year.
 
T-prop said:
FedEx gets paid near the top and look at their accident rate. For a while they lost an average of 1 widebody/year.
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I think they're hoping it'll only average out to 1/year.

We have...(one of these isn't a widebody, I know)

Newark.....MD-11.pilot-error.....strike damage.....good visibility, contaminated runway

Manila....A300...pilot-error....$16 million damage..... good visibility, wet runway

Subic Bay....MD11 .pilot-error....strike damage...... good visibility

Tallahassee...B727...pilot-error...strike damage..... good visibility

Memphis...MD10..pilot-error...strike damage..... ...good visibility, gusty crosswind

El Paso...A300...pilot-error...$2 million damage.....good visibility

Memphis...MD11..pilot-error..$.5 million damage....good visibility, go around

Ft Lauderdale..A300...pilot-error..$1.5 million damage....good visibility

Subic Bay....MD11.initial look is pilot-error..$10.5 million damage(yow!)..good visibility, tailwind

That's nine accidents 1997-present.
 
Kaman said:
It didn't help us at CJC when they used an average between Horizon and Lnyx.
It's too bad that Frontier's ALPA didn't have enough clout to stand up to managment and make that a mainline airplane. Another blow to ALPA and another windfall for managment. I realize that ALPA can only do so much, but was it anymore than a feeble attempt by Frontier "mainline" to keep the Q-400 on their property.
I am still at a loss to explain why a 50-seat RJ captain makes more than the Captain of a Q-400???
This industry truly does suck...Time to get out the Acme Truck Driving app. again. Good luck Lynx...You're going to be the goats at DEN this winter
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Frontier is NOT ALPA you mis-informed tool.
It is the Frontier Airline Pilot's Association - an "in-house" Union(FAPA).
 
WSurf said:
Yep! You can search the ALPA Scab list for her! I believe she took a Job at Eastern during a strike!
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Since you brought it up... She flew at AE and in the late 80's went to Eastern, then she became a ATC, then she went to VJ and had a problem with running off the RWY in DC from what the news articles said several years ago.
 
Yes, I mis-spoke. Sorry, I thought that Frontier was ALPA. Regardless of that fact, it is too bad that they weren't able to stop Lnyx aka GO-JETS II (in my opinion). The analogy comparing Frontier/Lynx to Alaska Air Group (Alaska/Horizon). The earlier post from our former Marine was not only out of line in his personal insult (dork, jacka**), but also showed the typical ignorance of a pilot with a narrow and short-sighted view of airline history.

Regards,
ex-Navy Rotorhead
 
Alright I sit and watch these Lynx threads with bemusement for the people that know nothing about the operation, and usually it isn't worth the time to post a rebuttal, becuase its just FI.

HOWEVER.. to call Lynx or even imply.. that they are anything like GoJets is uninformed, asinine, and inappropriate. The Alaska/Horizon analogy is very appropriate, Frontier wanted an ability to compete in markets that the Bus was too big for(Rap City, Sioux City) or the Bus couldn't get into (Aspen). They felt that having a regional carrier with t-props could meet these needs and allow for growth potential. The Frontier pilots were on board with this idea, and it was even discussed having the planes on the Frontier certificate. However ultimately the Frontier pilots didn't want to fly 74 seat props. Not a big shock. They liked the business plan and approved of the new certificate.

GoJets came to life when management replaced TSA's planes with the same damn size aircraft and hired cheaper pilots to fly them.

I'm tired of arguing about payrates and whipsawing, the two popular topics with Lynx, but I will argue until I'm blue in the face with anyone so ignorant as to imply Lynx is anything like GoJets...

cale
 
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cale42 said:
Alright I sit and watch these Lynx threads with bemusement for the people that know nothing about the operation, and usually it isn't worth the time to post a rebuttal, becuase its just FI.

HOWEVER.. to call Lynx or even imply.. that they are anything like GoJets is uninformed, asinine, and inappropriate. The Alaska/Horizon analogy is very appropriate, Frontier wanted an ability to compete in markets that the Bus was too big for(Rap City, Sioux City) or the Bus couldn't get into (Aspen). They felt that having a regional carrier with t-props could meet these needs and allow for growth potential. The Frontier pilots were on board with this idea, and it was even discussed having the planes on the Frontier certificate. However ultimately the Frontier pilots didn't want to fly 74 seat props. Not a big shock. They liked the business plan and approved of the new certificate.

GoJets came to life when management replaced TSA's planes with the same damn size aircraft and hired cheaper pilots to fly them.

I'm tired of arguing about payrates and whipsawing, the two popular topics with Lynx, but I will argue until I'm blue in the face with anyone so ignorant as to imply Lynx is anything like GoJets...

cale
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Thank you for clarifying..........GoJets is not Lynx.
 
Kaman said:
Yes, I mis-spoke. Sorry, I thought that Frontier was ALPA. Regardless of that fact, it is too bad that they weren't able to stop Lnyx aka GO-JETS II (in my opinion). The analogy comparing Frontier/Lynx to Alaska Air Group (Alaska/Horizon). The earlier post from our former Marine was not only out of line in his personal insult (dork, jacka**), but also showed the typical ignorance of a pilot with a narrow and short-sighted view of airline history.

Regards,
ex-Navy Rotorhead
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Where am I ignorant in the history of airlines? I know that one of the last "major" U.S. airlines to take delivery of a new turboprop was Western somewhere in the 60's or 70's, and it was a Lockheed Electra, you know a P-3 in squid speak.

Since CJC is taking delivery of Q400's and, in your logic, is therefore taking jobs from a weak CAL union that "lost" a bitter fight to fly them. Do everyone a favor and go ahead and deny yourself the jumpseat next time. . . GoJet III scab pilot.

Was it the pot who called the kettle black?

I dare you to find a mainline pilot group that wants to have turboprops on their property. Once again, try and find an AA flowback in the cockpit of an AE SAAB, or ATR. When AA, AE and management were negotiating the flow-through, APA was too proud a race to even stomach the thought of a furloughed mainline pilot forced to be at the controls of a turboprop. Let alone operate them at mainline.

The flowback deal is a fact, Western Airlines and the Electra, happened, they were one of the very last majors to take delivery of a turboprop.

So, where am I in error with my airline history?

Frontier pilots did/do not have much interest in flying the Q400, regardless of what you like to think they think. If they think, the way I think they should, they should be bitter at the Republic E-170 flying. But, that is only what I think they should be thinking, then again marines have been accused of many things, and thinking is NOT one of them ;)

I beg you to draw direct parallels b/n Lynx and GoJets. Who is the TSA equivalent? Is GoJets a wholly owned subsidiary of United Airlines? Oh, and be careful about the union status, remember CJC doesn't have one either, though GoJets now has one. Be careful about the pay too, $50/hr in DEN is the equivalent to ~$64/hr for someone who lives in/near EWR. What was CJC's rate? oh yeah, $53/hr. Should it be higher? Of course, we should all be getting paid better. Since there is no TSA, and Frontier pilots do not want the Q400, who are they "stealing" jobs and upgrades from? Oh, Lynx gets block or better too, they didn't even negotiate for that... freebie from management. Most other regionals took decades to get that written into their contract along with their current pay.

How is Lynx different from other regional carriers who fly smaller equipment for less pay? Remember that Lynx was created under the full knowledge and agreement of FAPA.

You insinuate that unions need to have more spine and fortitude, what about your union?
 
T-prop said:
Be careful about the pay too, $50/hr in DEN is the equivalent to ~$64/hr for someone who lives in/near EWR. What was CJC's rate? oh yeah, $53/hr.
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Thanks for remembering to mention that T-prop.. i meant too and forgot... here is the supporting data for the curious..

http://cgi.money.cnn.com/tools/cost...Menu=NJ&to_city=Newark-Elizabeth+NJ&x=17&y=17

50K/yr in Denver is equivalent to $64.3K/yr in Newark.. and of course no one really live in Newark, so if you try to live in NY it will take even more...

cale
 
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