HueyPilot
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Clarification
It seems to me that the vast majority of those making assumptions and accusations of G.W. Bush's service in the National Guard have little or no knowledge about the military, and specifically the Guard.
Even people who served on active duty probably can't comment on it accurate because the National Guard and the active military, while seemingly similar, are two worlds apart.
Singlecoil, Bush was never "AWOL". That terms means Absent Without Leave. Not being on flying status is just that...not being on flying status. It's not AWOL. Not showing for traditional Guard weekend "drills" also doesn't necessarily mean you're AWOL either.
One thing you need to understand to make any sense of this is the Guard is VERY flexible when it comes to your civilian occupation. Generally, if your civilian job takes you away from your unit in such a capacity that you can't make your traditional obligation (ie attend unit drill on the weekends), you can either make it up via other ways, or in some cases you can be exempt from attending altogether.
In short, the Guard can't legally force you to give up your civilian occupation just to serve with a particular unit once a month. If Bush left to work on a political campaign in Alabama, and the campaign is legitimate (and it was), then the Texas Air Guard can't force him to come back to serve.
Bush requested to transfer, and that was denied. It was denied NOT because they wanted Bush to come back to Texas, but because Bush was an F-102 pilot, and he wasn't trained to fulfill any other career field. Plus he requested to transfer to the Air Force Reserve, which is a totally different entity. AFRes is a Federal organization, whereas the TXANG is a state organization. Bush received a direct commission (which is legal and not uncommon in the Guard), but that commission was a state commission with Federal recognition. In other words, he was a commissioned officer in the TXANG, but the federal government recognized his authority as such. However, he did not possess a federal full commission. So he was ineligible to serve as a commissioned officer in the AFRes.
I know, it sounds sketchy to some, but that's the way it works. We had a guy who was direct commissioned in the LA ARNG back in the late 1990s, and after flying helicopters for a while he wanted to fly airplanes. He couldn't go to the Reserves because he held a state commission. He couldn't attend federal OCS/OTS (Officer Candidate School) because you can't hold a commission of any kind prior to entry. So his only choice was to transfer to the LAANG to fly F-15s, which he did.
As for not flying the last two years, that's perfectly fine. We had a few people who chose to pursue other things, both in the Guard and in their civilian jobs. One guy transferred to a ground unit so he could make more time to attend law school. Another went on to the medical side of things to be a flight surgeon. Both guys had their flight status suspended because their physicals lapsed, and I'm sure they'd have a piece of paper just like Bush's that says so. But it doesn't mean they were in trouble...it just means they are no longer on flying status and here's the reason why. That flying status report doesn't have the space nor reason to delve into deeper subjects like "officer transferred to another state due to personal obligations"...it simply states "failure to accomplish physical". Which was the DIRECT reason why their flight status was canceled, but not the whole picture.
As for not showing...one friend of mine moved to Mississippi to become the manager of a new Sears store up there. He talked about maybe flying with a MS Guard unit, but when he got up there he didn't have time and basically did his Guard duty in bits and pieces. I don't know how he did it specifically, but he never showed up at any of our unit meetings, nor did he fly with us anymore. And he still had 1 year left in his obligation. Last I heard, he's in the inactive Guard. He was never in trouble.
As for making up the time, there are a million ways to do it. It depends on your commander and what they are willing to do to accomodate you. I've even seen units go so far as to simply release a person entirely. When I was enlisted, we had a guy move to Michigan and he simply "got out" of his enlistment and went directly to the inactive Guard because he didn't have any way of making it up to us.
In conclusion, I don't find anything wrong about Bush's service. Nothing. I was in the Guard for 8 years, and while his service isn't necessarily outstanding, it isn't the shameful record his critics make it out to be. Most of the comments I've seen regarding his service show basic lack of understanding when it comes to military service. It's like everyone who comments on his "record" acts like they are exposing something, yet they themselves don't understand any of what they're talking about. And his medical records? Those are private, and aren't available to the public. You can get into my personnel records and read my performance reports, etc, but you can't read my medical records, nor would I want you to. So just because I don't want you snooping through my medical records, does that immediately indicate I had some drug problem? No. And I seriously doubt any of you Bush critics would like anyone reading your medical history either.
It seems to me that the vast majority of those making assumptions and accusations of G.W. Bush's service in the National Guard have little or no knowledge about the military, and specifically the Guard.
Even people who served on active duty probably can't comment on it accurate because the National Guard and the active military, while seemingly similar, are two worlds apart.
Singlecoil, Bush was never "AWOL". That terms means Absent Without Leave. Not being on flying status is just that...not being on flying status. It's not AWOL. Not showing for traditional Guard weekend "drills" also doesn't necessarily mean you're AWOL either.
One thing you need to understand to make any sense of this is the Guard is VERY flexible when it comes to your civilian occupation. Generally, if your civilian job takes you away from your unit in such a capacity that you can't make your traditional obligation (ie attend unit drill on the weekends), you can either make it up via other ways, or in some cases you can be exempt from attending altogether.
In short, the Guard can't legally force you to give up your civilian occupation just to serve with a particular unit once a month. If Bush left to work on a political campaign in Alabama, and the campaign is legitimate (and it was), then the Texas Air Guard can't force him to come back to serve.
Bush requested to transfer, and that was denied. It was denied NOT because they wanted Bush to come back to Texas, but because Bush was an F-102 pilot, and he wasn't trained to fulfill any other career field. Plus he requested to transfer to the Air Force Reserve, which is a totally different entity. AFRes is a Federal organization, whereas the TXANG is a state organization. Bush received a direct commission (which is legal and not uncommon in the Guard), but that commission was a state commission with Federal recognition. In other words, he was a commissioned officer in the TXANG, but the federal government recognized his authority as such. However, he did not possess a federal full commission. So he was ineligible to serve as a commissioned officer in the AFRes.
I know, it sounds sketchy to some, but that's the way it works. We had a guy who was direct commissioned in the LA ARNG back in the late 1990s, and after flying helicopters for a while he wanted to fly airplanes. He couldn't go to the Reserves because he held a state commission. He couldn't attend federal OCS/OTS (Officer Candidate School) because you can't hold a commission of any kind prior to entry. So his only choice was to transfer to the LAANG to fly F-15s, which he did.
As for not flying the last two years, that's perfectly fine. We had a few people who chose to pursue other things, both in the Guard and in their civilian jobs. One guy transferred to a ground unit so he could make more time to attend law school. Another went on to the medical side of things to be a flight surgeon. Both guys had their flight status suspended because their physicals lapsed, and I'm sure they'd have a piece of paper just like Bush's that says so. But it doesn't mean they were in trouble...it just means they are no longer on flying status and here's the reason why. That flying status report doesn't have the space nor reason to delve into deeper subjects like "officer transferred to another state due to personal obligations"...it simply states "failure to accomplish physical". Which was the DIRECT reason why their flight status was canceled, but not the whole picture.
As for not showing...one friend of mine moved to Mississippi to become the manager of a new Sears store up there. He talked about maybe flying with a MS Guard unit, but when he got up there he didn't have time and basically did his Guard duty in bits and pieces. I don't know how he did it specifically, but he never showed up at any of our unit meetings, nor did he fly with us anymore. And he still had 1 year left in his obligation. Last I heard, he's in the inactive Guard. He was never in trouble.
As for making up the time, there are a million ways to do it. It depends on your commander and what they are willing to do to accomodate you. I've even seen units go so far as to simply release a person entirely. When I was enlisted, we had a guy move to Michigan and he simply "got out" of his enlistment and went directly to the inactive Guard because he didn't have any way of making it up to us.
In conclusion, I don't find anything wrong about Bush's service. Nothing. I was in the Guard for 8 years, and while his service isn't necessarily outstanding, it isn't the shameful record his critics make it out to be. Most of the comments I've seen regarding his service show basic lack of understanding when it comes to military service. It's like everyone who comments on his "record" acts like they are exposing something, yet they themselves don't understand any of what they're talking about. And his medical records? Those are private, and aren't available to the public. You can get into my personnel records and read my performance reports, etc, but you can't read my medical records, nor would I want you to. So just because I don't want you snooping through my medical records, does that immediately indicate I had some drug problem? No. And I seriously doubt any of you Bush critics would like anyone reading your medical history either.