Looks like Delta is trying to merge with UAL

[9rj9]

2 Planes Nearly Collide on Fla. Runway
Thursday July 12, 12:02 pm ET FAA: 2 Planes Nearly Collide at Fort Lauderdale, Fla., Airport After 1 Entered Wrong Runway

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) -- Two planes came within 100 feet of colliding at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport after one missed its turn onto a taxiway and entered the runway where the other was about to land, federal authorities said.
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document. Air traffic controllers noticed a plane entering a runway Wednesday as Delta Flight 1489 approached the same runway for a landing, Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Kathleen Bergen said.
The controllers alerted the Delta crew to pull up and circle the airport to avoid United Flight 1544, which had missed a turn onto another taxiway, Bergen said.
Investigators were focusing on what caused the United flight to veer into Delta's right of way, Bergen said.
Spokeswomen for Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines Inc. and Chicago-based UAL Corp.'s United Airlines did not immediately return messages Thursday seeking comment.
The near-miss, or "runway incursion" in FAA terminology, is under investigation, Bergen said. The Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood airport had three runway incursions during the 12 months that ended May 31, according to FAA records. Two were blamed on pilot error and the third was ruled an air traffic control error. Nationwide, the FAA reported 330 runway incursions in fiscal year 2006.

 

[737 Pylt]

2 Planes Nearly Collide on Fla. Runway
Thursday July 12, 12:02 pm ET FAA: 2 Planes Nearly Collide at Fort Lauderdale, Fla., Airport After 1 Entered Wrong Runway

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) -- Two planes came within 100 feet of colliding at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport after one missed its turn onto a taxiway and entered the runway where the other was about to land, federal authorities said.
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document. Air traffic controllers noticed a plane entering a runway Wednesday as Delta Flight 1489 approached the same runway for a landing, Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Kathleen Bergen said.
The controllers alerted the Delta crew to pull up and circle the airport to avoid United Flight 1544, which had missed a turn onto another taxiway, Bergen said.
Investigators were focusing on what caused the United flight to veer into Delta's right of way, Bergen said.
Spokeswomen for Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines Inc. and Chicago-based UAL Corp.'s United Airlines did not immediately return messages Thursday seeking comment.
The near-miss, or "runway incursion" in FAA terminology, is under investigation, Bergen said. The Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood airport had three runway incursions during the 12 months that ended May 31, according to FAA records. Two were blamed on pilot error and the third was ruled an air traffic control error. Nationwide, the FAA reported 330 runway incursions in fiscal year 2006.

That's wonderful....Some lav rat making smart ass comments about a runway incursion. Hey dumbass, stick to turns around point!

737

 

[instructordude]

2 Planes Nearly Collide on Fla. Runway
Thursday July 12, 12:02 pm ET FAA: 2 Planes Nearly Collide at Fort Lauderdale, Fla., Airport After 1 Entered Wrong Runway

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) -- Two planes came within 100 feet of colliding at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport after one missed its turn onto a taxiway and entered the runway where the other was about to land, federal authorities said.
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document. Air traffic controllers noticed a plane entering a runway Wednesday as Delta Flight 1489 approached the same runway for a landing, Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Kathleen Bergen said.
The controllers alerted the Delta crew to pull up and circle the airport to avoid United Flight 1544, which had missed a turn onto another taxiway, Bergen said.
Investigators were focusing on what caused the United flight to veer into Delta's right of way, Bergen said.
Spokeswomen for Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines Inc. and Chicago-based UAL Corp.'s United Airlines did not immediately return messages Thursday seeking comment.
The near-miss, or "runway incursion" in FAA terminology, is under investigation, Bergen said. The Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood airport had three runway incursions during the 12 months that ended May 31, according to FAA records. Two were blamed on pilot error and the third was ruled an air traffic control error. Nationwide, the FAA reported 330 runway incursions in fiscal year 2006.

Real bad on United but also a bit on Delta. A controller should not have to tell you go around. Guys need to be paying better attention out there.

 

[BID]

Real bad on United but also a bit on Delta. A controller should not have to tell you go around. Guys need to be paying better attention out there.

I agree sometime pilots tend to be clueless and do not pay attention to their surroundings, but you were not there. Maybe they were ready to go around right when the tower called them? You should know better than to get your facts from the media.

Just remember there is a first for everything, even for you future captain.

 

[RedBelly]

Real bad on United but also a bit on Delta. A controller should not have to tell you go around. Guys need to be paying better attention out there.

I don't even know where to begin with this one.

 

[samballs]

Real bad on United but also a bit on Delta. A controller should not have to tell you go around. Guys need to be paying better attention out there.

thats right, I'm sure they were just gonna land on the runway with an aircraft on it, your a dumbass.

 

[~~~^~~~]

The controllers always act like they saved the day - why do you think they were talking to the press to begin with?

 

[Noserider76]

Real bad on United but also a bit on Delta. A controller should not have to tell you go around. Guys need to be paying better attention out there.

The FAA just called and revoked your instructor rating. If you don't know what you're talking about, STHU.

 

[instructordude]

thats right, I'm sure they were just gonna land on the runway with an aircraft on it, your a dumbass.

It's right there in the article, the controllers had to send them around otherwise a catosophre was going to happen.

 

[JohnDoe]

Guys.....

Take the fish hook out of your mouth with regard to instructordude. He's reeling you in hook, line, and sinker.

 

[jonjuan]

Real bad on United but also a bit on Delta. A controller should not have to tell you go around. Guys need to be paying better attention out there.

No kidding. Maybe it was the General on short final shooting for 10,000 FI posts prior to Labor Day.

 

[Diesel-9]

Fatigue was not a factor.

 

[General Lee]

No kidding. Maybe it was the General on short final shooting for 10,000 FI posts prior to Labor Day.

That litterally makes no sense, but you probably made yourself laugh, which is worth it. Good for you.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Real bad on United but also a bit on Delta. A controller should not have to tell you go around. Guys need to be paying better attention out there.

You are an idiot. I guess the Pilot not flying should be watching ground movements too instead of watching the plane and the pilot flying. Riiight. Forget looking inside, zero in on parallel taxiways. The United guy was probably on the ground frequency anyway so there was little chance the Delta pilot could have heard anything about a potential crossing. This wasn't a tug crossing a runway, this was a wrong turn. Idiot.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[~~~^~~~]

General, but when your jets get wireless networks you can't just sit there for eight hours.....

All joking aside, I have little doubt the TOGA buttons got pushed before the mike button.

Instructor Dude has a picture of a Mesa, SkyWest, or GoJets 90 seater in his Avitar. Just consider the source.....

(Que 737Pylts generic Fin slam in three, two, one....)

 

[Airboss]

I was talking to a Delta FLL gate agent. She said that the return flight almost cancelled. After the incident, they had to pull the CVR. Aparently Delta wants its pilots to sit out their next round-trip. The Delta pilots talked to their cheif pilot and got approval to operate it back to ATL. Is this a common pratice to get pulled offline?

 

[tomgoodman]

Wow!

It's right there in the article, the controllers had to send them around otherwise a catosophre was going to happen.

I'm certainly glad there wasn't a catosophre. No one is trained for those things.

 

[pgcfii2002]

Somehow I see this turning into a PFT arguement....

 

[~~~^~~~]

I was talking to a Delta FLL gate agent. She said that the return flight almost cancelled. After the incident, they had to pull the CVR. Aparently Delta wants its pilots to sit out their next round-trip. The Delta pilots talked to their cheif pilot and got approval to operate it back to ATL. Is this a common pratice to get pulled offline?

Can't speak for Delta, but at most airlines, yes. It doesn't mean anything except for an investigation is taking place. With a loss of separation between two 121 operators, you can bet an investigation is taking place. Feel bad for the United crew and wish like heck that these sort of things did not ever happen.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Real bad on United but also a bit on Delta. A controller should not have to tell you go around. Guys need to be paying better attention out there.

Knock on wood....I hope I never fly with a person who thinks they are immune to incidents like this.

 

[Jmoney]

HolyCrap!

It's right there in the article, the controllers had to send them around otherwise a catosophre was going to happen.

Maybe controllers should not have to tell people to go-around, but I personally feel compelled mightily to tell "instructordude" he is in reality the tail-section of a horse!

Maybe no one should have to tell you to pack your blow-up doll separtely from your carry-on. Could be a little embarrassing going thru security. I do believe I remember something about you "beating it" on 80% of your overnights!

-You Sir-are the commandant of all spank-off booger-eating morons!

-I hate you

 

[737 Pylt]

General, but when your jets get wireless networks you can't just sit there for eight hours.....

All joking aside, I have little doubt the TOGA buttons got pushed before the mike button.

Instructor Dude has a picture of a Mesa, SkyWest, or GoJets 90 seater in his Avitar. Just consider the source.....

(Que 737Pylts generic Fin slam in three, two, one....)

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
LMAO!!
I'm just surprised you didn't blame it on DALPA or the evil DL pilot group!

737

BTW, instructorwipe claims to be a pilot for gay jets, but as others have pointed out, he's just another troll from another banned username!

 

[instructordude]

You are an idiot. I guess the Pilot not flying should be watching ground movements too instead of watching the plane and the pilot flying. Riiight. Forget looking inside, zero in on parallel taxiways. The United guy was probably on the ground frequency anyway so there was little chance the Delta pilot could have heard anything about a potential crossing. This wasn't a tug crossing a runway, this was a wrong turn. Idiot.


Bye Bye--General Lee

A guy with 9000 posts is calling me an idoit?? When I fly the safety of my crew and passengers come first! Doesn't sound like safety was even a thought in this particular case.

 

[instructordude]

but I personally feel compelled mightily to tell "instructordude" he is in reality the tail-section of a horse!

If I'm the tail section on the horse then your the bag hanging beneath my backside!:laugh:

-I hate you

I don't hate you.

 

[Jeff Lebowski]

you can tell by the yellow sticker on the lower outboard side of the #1 engine cowl on instructor dude's avatar that thats a go jets bird. only trans states holdings would be lame enough to put 'do not bump' stickers on their engine cowls. kind of like the tags they make their employees wear beneath their ids that say things like "no horse play." i used to be a waterskier and i can say there is no way 'instructor dude' is a real go jets pilot. If he was, he wouldnt have any time to be posting here because he would be to busy bangin' his sister!

 

[Golden Falcon]

More likely he'd be banging his brother or 5yr old nephew

 

[Jmoney]

You Suck!

A guy with 9000 posts is calling me an idoit?? When I fly the safety of my crew and passengers come first! Doesn't sound like safety was even a thought in this particular case.

I don't believe he called you an "idoit." Maybe that is some French term we are not familiar with, but here goes in good ol' American english:

You sir, are an IDIOT-that's right, IDIOT is the word you were called, and IDIOT I can certainly confirm is what you are.
-WOW!

 

[JJET44]

WOW!!
I only thought that these incursions only happen when MESA's taxiing!


BTW I flew a SKYWest CRJ-700 from BZM to ORD and it had a sticker under the left engine cowl.

 

[Bill Mostellar]

I was talking to a Delta FLL gate agent. She said that the return flight almost cancelled. After the incident, they had to pull the CVR. Aparently Delta wants its pilots to sit out their next round-trip. The Delta pilots talked to their cheif pilot and got approval to operate it back to ATL. Is this a common pratice to get pulled offline?

My sources tell me the FAA wanted to pull the CVR and the Data (grounding the jet). Delta convinced them to pull the CVR and fly the plane to ATL. I haven't heard what they proposed for the other aircraft.

As others have said, the TOGA button was probably pushed before the Controller issued an instruction (remember the almost "gear up" landing a few weeks ago and the discussion that insued).

I wish you success!
William
AKA Bill

 

[popgoesbubble]

When I fly the safety of my crew and passengers come first!

Sounds like you've been watching Top Gun again HomoDude. Hey Hows that Fighter Pilot slot coming in the AF we miss you on the Military boards.