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Hahahaha...social engineering at it's finest. If they really want to "de-carbonize" Europe, they should all take a running leap into the Atlantic and swim like there's no tomorrow. By getting rid of their Carbon based asses, they'll soon realize a drop in the Carbon gasses.
 

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Global warming isn't a hoax. I doubt that aviation is contributing much to it but you can't argue with global climate change. Whether it's caused by us and carbon dioxide emissions or just a natural variation in global climate is arguable.

Lighten up Francis, and turn off the Rush Lamebaugh
 

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cezzna said:
Lighten up Francis, and turn off the Rush Lamebaugh
Sorry, not a Rush fan...never listened to a single episode.

Half the people = Half the polution

It's basic math, What's the solution?

Prince Charles said it himself, the world needs a little thining out...he said that.

[I stand corrected, maybe it was Prince Phillip!]

Prince Phillip said:
"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." -Prince Philip (Duke of Edinburgh, leader of The World Wildlife Fund" and father of Prince Charles)
 
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Icelandair said:
http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/D8COL13O4.html

Some wacko scientist thinks aviation is growing too much and is contributing to the hoax called "global warming"
I love when people with no background in science make bold assertions about things they couldn't possibly understand. Like the conservative radio hosts that continually discourage theories of global warming. Kinda reminds you of earlier conservatives who referred to the idea of the earth not being the center of the universe as a "hoax"
 

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polysciguy9 said:
I love when people with no background in science make bold assertions about things they couldn't possibly understand. Like the conservative radio hosts that continually discourage theories of global warming. Kinda reminds you of earlier conservatives who referred to the idea of the earth not being the center of the universe as a "hoax"
In another thread a poster posted a post regarding the shrinking polar ice caps on mars.

Maybe the sun is making the earth hotter?
 

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cezzna said:
Global warming isn't a hoax. I doubt that aviation is contributing much to it but you can't argue with global climate change. Whether it's caused by us and carbon dioxide emissions or just a natural variation in global climate is arguable.

Lighten up Francis, and turn off the Rush Lamebaugh
We have been taking and recording temperature measurements for about 150 years. The earth has been here for about 6 billion years. How in the world do you think that measurements from such a blip of time could possibly have an effect on this planet? It's amazing to me how people run around screaming that man is going to destroy the earth. I will not argue that we may very well make it uninhabitable for us, but there is no way that we can destroy it. It was here long before we showed up, and it will here long after we are gone. And next time we have record wintertime snows and low temps please explain again how global warming is causing it.
 

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atrdriver said:
We have been taking and recording temperature measurements for about 150 years. The earth has been here for about 6 billion years. How in the world do you think that measurements from such a blip of time could possibly have an effect on this planet? It's amazing to me how people run around screaming that man is going to destroy the earth. I will not argue that we may very well make it uninhabitable for us, but there is no way that we can destroy it. It was here long before we showed up, and it will here long after we are gone. And next time we have record wintertime snows and low temps please explain again how global warming is causing it.
The measurements don't have any effect.
 

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The measurements don't have any effect.
You're sharp dude! :D
 

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TrafficInSight said:
The measurements don't have any effect.
OK Smart a$$, tell me how the rising temperatures (small, approx 2 degrees over 150 years) over a blip of a period this small in the overall history of the earth could have any effect.
 

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atrdriver said:
OK Smart a$$, tell me how the rising temperatures (small, approx 2 degrees over 150 years) over a blip of a period this small in the overall history of the earth could have any effect.
Well a 2 degree temperature rise means melting glaciers, higher sea levels, perhaps more tropical storms? I don't know... I'm not a meto... metero...meteor.... weatherguy.* ;)

I think 2 degrees in 150 years is a rather large jump when you consider that the last glacial advance peaked around 20,000 YEARS AGO. That's my personal opinion of course. I think we're doing much better environmentally now than we were 40 years ago... even the H2 is cleaner than the old pickup that was my first car. Sure we've only been recording temperatures for 150 years but for the first 100 of those years, and before, we were pumping all kinds of toxins into the environment with little understanding or concern for how they affect things. So yes, the planet we live on is very resilient... but that doesn't mean there's ZERO effect.


* - I know perfectly well how to spell meteoroligist thank you.** ;)


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Read Michael Crichton's newest book State of Fear although its fiction all the data and claims he makes in it are based on facts. Its been a while since I read it but I thought that it made a pretty good argument that global warming is all BS.
 

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TrafficInSight said:
The measurements don't have any effect.
atrdriver said:
OK Smart a$$, tell me how the rising temperatures (small, approx 2 degrees over 150 years) over a blip of a period this small in the overall history of the earth could have any effect.
The temperature changes might affect the world, but the measurements don't have any effect. Not unless they used thermometers that released green house gasses during the measurements.
 

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And I'll say it again, there is no way in he!! that we could destroy this planet. We may make it uninhabitable for humans, but there is no way we can destroy it. I was watching a show on TV showing a timeline of the earth, and the way they put it was that if the entire history of the earth filed up a 4 hour timeline, then human history would be about 1.5 seconds at the end of it. No one has ever considered that the earth may just be in a warming cycle. Just as it had cooling cycles that produced the glaciers. No one ever considers that the volcano in the Phillipines that blew a few years ago spewed more toxins into the atmosphere in 30 seconds than man has in his entire history.
 

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atrdriver said:
And I'll say it again, there is no way in he!! that we could destroy this planet. We may make it uninhabitable for humans, but there is no way we can destroy it. I was watching a show on TV showing a timeline of the earth, and the way they put it was that if the entire history of the earth filed up a 4 hour timeline, then human history would be about 1.5 seconds at the end of it. No one has ever considered that the earth may just be in a warming cycle. Just as it had cooling cycles that produced the glaciers. No one ever considers that the volcano in the Phillipines that blew a few years ago spewed more toxins into the atmosphere in 30 seconds than man has in his entire history.
I fail to see what you're advocating. "We can't destroy the earth we can only make it uninhabitable?" Okay...
 
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