FAA Order 8710.3D (Designated Pilot and Flight Engineer Examiner's Handbook), Chapter 11, Section 1:
A. Flight Instructor Endorsement. An applicant for a type rating to be added to an existing ATP certificate or for the original issuance of an ATP certificate in an airplane requiring a type rating must have an endorsement in his or her logbook or training record (per § 61.157(b)(2)) from an authorized instructor certifying completion of the training required by § 61.157(e).
NOTE: FAA Form 8710-1, Airman Certificate and/or Rating Application, does not require instructor endorsement or instructor recommendation.
(1) The training required by § 61.157(e) may be conducted by instructors in an approved training program under parts 121 or 135 for pilot employees of those air carriers.
(2) Under the provisions of § 61.167, the holder of an ATP certificate may train other pilots in air transportation service. The ATP certificate holder must hold the appropriate aircraft category, class, and type rating, if applicable. The ATP certificate holder need not hold a flight instructor certificate. However, to provide training under the provisions of § 61.167, both the holder of the ATP certificate and the applicant must be pilot employees of that air carrier and the training must be conducted in an approved training program under parts 121 or 135, as appropriate.
B. Instructor Recommendation. The Instructor’s Recommendation section on the FAA Form 8710-1 application need not be signed for the original issuance of an ATP certificate; however, in the case of a failure of the practical test, the applicant must obtain an instructor’s recommendation. (See § 61.49(a).)
(1) The recommending instructor for a retest must hold an instrument instructor rating and the appropriate aircraft category and class ratings for the aircraft to be used for the test.
(2) The instructor does not have to hold an ATP certificate.
(3) An instrument instructor rating is not necessary if the practical test is for visual flight rules (VFR) privileges only. (See § 61.157(b)(3).)
(4) The instructor who provides the training is not required to hold a flight instructor certificate if the training was conducted in an approved training program under parts 121 or 135, as appropriate, and both the instructor and the applicant are employed by the same air carrier in air transportation service. (See § 61.167(b)(1).)
FAA Chief Legal Counsel Interpretation:
MAR. 5, 1976
Mr. W. A. Dennison
Dear Mr. Dennison:
This is in response to your request for interpretation of Sec. 61.169 of the Federal Aviation Regulations, and confirms our telephone conversation of more recent date. You specifically ask whether an airline transport pilot may instruct a commercial-instrument rated pilot, in an aircraft of the category, class, and type for which the ATP pilot is rated, for the purpose of attaining an airline transport pilot certificate.
Section 61.169 states, in pertinent part, that an airline transport pilot may instruct other pilots in air transportation service in aircraft of the category, class, and type for which he is rated. Part 1 of the Federal Aviation Regulations defines air transportation as interstate, overseas, or foreign air transportation, or the transportation of mail by aircraft. The last sentence of Sec. 61.169 provides that, "unless he has a flight instructor certificate, an airline transport pilot may instruct only as provided in this section".
Based on the foregoing, Sec. 61.169 authorizes an airline transport pilot to give flight instruction which may be logged by the recipient for the purpose of obtaining an airline transport pilot certificate, only if the recipient is engaged in air transportation service.
We regret the delay in this response and trust this satisfactorily answers your inquiry. If we can be of any further assistance, please let us know.
Sincerely,
CARL A. DANIELS
Chief, Airmen and Airports Branch
Regulations and Codification Division
Office of the Chief Counsel
. Good for him i guess....I'll never be throwing gear for him.
