Live where you want at NetJets?

[skiandsurf]

Good Point, who cares... Can you answer the second question, smart guy?

I was offered different planes based on what class date I chose. At the time I went thru, there were guys in evertyhing but the Falcon EZ and the BBJ. Those go pretty senior. But all Citation models, Hawkers 400 and 800, Falcon 2000 and G200 were represented in my indoc class.

But this has been 8 months ago.

 

[tk855]

If you are from New Jersey & you want TEB can you get it. Or do you have to take whatever you get? What kinda of airplanes are being offered right now?

There are no guarantees that you will get TEB, even if you live nearby. If you indicate that you want TEB as a domicile, they will likely wait to interview you until they have openings. Recently, guys wanting the DAL domicile have waited since February to interview because they were unwilling or unable to accept any other domicile.

 

[SinglePliot135]

Is it true that you can become home based later on or will you have to stay with one of the five? I know those that started before the contract was rattified can still be home based; is there a point, with senority, where new hires will have the same option? (I was told that once you reach the top 70% you will be able to live wherever you want)

 

[Flynetjets]

Yes there is a provision in the contract that will allow pilots hired after the contract to use the HBA's. However, if you look at the language, we would need close to 5000 pilots before the first pilots after the ratification are able to use the HBA's.

I would put a little hope in what happens next year. The majors are going to start hiring again, and we have a fair amount of pilots over 65 who will be leaving, so it will be interesting to see if the company might be forced to open up some additional airports.

 

[tk855]

Is it true that you can become home based later on or will you have to stay with one of the five? I know those that started before the contract was rattified can still be home based; is there a point, with senority, where new hires will have the same option? (I was told that once you reach the top 70% you will be able to live wherever you want)

Your numbers are backwards. The post-ratification hires need to be in the top 30% of the seniority list. I will agree with Flynetjets in that we will have to almost double the seniority list in order for the first post-rat. newhire to receive home basing.

 

[p3hawk]

Domilciles

Thats really a mute point, since all pilots hired before the current CBA were grandfathered in to there HBA's. To make it fare it should be 30% of the new hires after the the current CBA. Were up to 2525 pilot's or 525 NH's 30% of that fig. is approx 160. Just MHO.

Cheers P3hawk

 

[Flynetjets]

I wish it worked like that, but unfortunately that is now how the contract reads. It is 30% of total pilots, not new hires.....

 

[tk855]

Thats really a mute point, since all pilots hired before the current CBA were grandfathered in to there HBA's. To make it fare it should be 30% of the new hires after the the current CBA. Were up to 2525 pilot's or 525 NH's 30% of that fig. is approx 160. Just MHO.

Cheers P3hawk

Your numbers are off, we haven't hired 525 pilots post-rat. The last pilot to be hired pre-rat. is number 2191 out of 2525, that comes out to 334. Like Flynetjets says, it is 30% of the total seniority list.

 

[p3hawk]

My Mistake

OOps sorry, Just going by the "crew ops" senority list. 8-14-06. but still a mute point.

 

[Ultra Grump]

Man, do you guys just resign yourselves to the fact that you can't spell the simplest words, and refuse to learn the correct spelling and/or usage?

Mute/moot
Fare/fair
Were/we're
There/their/they're

Look them up. Please.

That's just in one post. Sheesh!

 

[skyward80]

So if you put in a domicile preference will the company wait to interview you until that domicile opens up?

 

[netjetwife]

Skyward, yes. That's been happening to others. You will increase your odds of getting an interview with each domicile you can consider. My husband advises pilots to take what they can get now (if they can make it work out) and bid for the domicile of your choice once you're in the system.


Hey, UG, good post! You see, there are things that we agree on.... Here's another one for your list that you're compiling --- your and you're. As you can see, it's not just a spelling problem; it's a usage problem, as well. As I often see your used in place of you're, I tend to think it's a matter of inattention to detail-- which surprises me coming from pilots.

To those of you who think we're being picky, I offer this thought. If you expect to be paid like a professional, looking and sounding like one is a good beginning. We all know how much importance is placed on first impressions and packaging. I can't speak for UG, but I offer the free advice out of common concern and fellowship....with just a touch of exasperation... NJW

 

[Humphreybogart]

My husband advises pilots to take what they can get now (if they can make it work out) and bid for the domicile of your choice once you're in the system.

Sounds like hubby knows alot...sounds like hubby is management...hmmm

 

[netjetwife]

The NJ pilots who know my husband realize how very wrong you are. On the point of his knowledge, though, you're entirely correct. For the record, my husband is one of the hard-working volunteer leaders of 1108.

Certainly pilots can hold out for the domicile of their choice, but in the meantime, the opening must be offered to pilots on property first. That rule is in the LOA which governs domiciles. You don't have to be management to know that...

 

[SCT]

"To those of you who think we're being picky, I offer this thought. If you expect to be paid like a professional, looking and sounding like one is a good beginning. We all know how much importance is placed on first impressions and packaging.".......NJW

NutJetWife,

So you are lecturing us pilots on how to be professional? Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Select last night? The day you strap your a$$ to an airplane and do the job we do is the the DAY you can give advice on how to be a professional. This almosts tops your post on tipping etiquette.

You are a trip women,

SCT