Listening to Music on the Flight Deck - Safety Issue? FAA/Company Aware?

[starcheck208]

listening to music is a great way to cruise, espically by yourself to stay awake

 

[AerroMatt]

Panty-in-a-wad check...

So you have to be able to listen to your music to have fun.....

What ever happened to job satisfaction? Not enough?

Finally, would you listen to your Ipod during an FAA enroute inspection? yes/no?

Rez, you need to pull those panties out of yer a$$ that are all in a wad. Lighten up and enjoy, when appropriate.

Blue skies and tailwinds.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Rez- you ever look at a newspaper during cruise?

I looked at a newspaper once..... once!

I was doing a CDO (stand up) and figured why not, the Capt is too..... besides this whole stiff professionalism thing is getting old.

The Capt. I was flying with looks at me and says... you know... usually my FO's get my newspaper for me.... I replied, I got 5K hours and I'm typed in this jet... get your own damn paper....

So there we were, climbing out, looking like two rejects on a park bench with newspapers open spread eagle.......

A little while longer I look at the FMA and realize I'm still in heading mode as the white needle drifts... Damn IT! Down went (my) paper and back to personal policy.


Well..... I guess I can't chew gum and walk at the same time...

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So how do you do Ipod it with a Fed on board?




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[NotFurloughed]

???

Yeah...no problem....

It's okay if you're Doug Masters and your gettin' ready to "fly the snake"....so long as "Chappy" has adjusted your mixture....

Let's grow up....

......"One vision"......

 

[Lead Sled]

Now we've heard how the guys whose experience is comprised mostly of low altitude, short-ranged, domestic, daytime flying. How do the guys who fly a lot of long-range, domestice or oceanic, high altitude (FL390+) "Direct To" routings, or late night feel about it?

Personally, I don't have a problem with it as long as it's done right - simply stuffing your Ipod earbuds in your ears, then placing your headset over them isn't doing it right. You've got to have the proper equipment - something that mutes the music when ATC is talking; that way you don't miss any calls. You also should wait to screw around with the Ipod until you're at altitude and "settled in" for the flight. Last of all, it comes off once ATC starts you down.

If done properly, it can help enhance alertness on those long, "low intensity" legs. It's no different than the practice of allowing crew members to take short "power naps" while enroute - but it has to be done correctly.

'Sled

 

[OUPilot]

If you get a lightspeed headset, you can plug the ipod right into the headset. The headset mutes the music 80 percent or so when either the intercomm or radio is used. I think their website is www.anrheadsets.com

 

[dumbidea]

here's a thought. if you can't listen to some jon secada, and hold a heading, maybe flying an airplane is not for you. not that i'm attempting to start a pissing match, but seriously. try flying single pilot, ifr, in the soup, in a navajo, with a flashlight in your mouth, trying to tune in the ILS on nav 1 and having to hold constant right wing down cause the a/p is deferred. throw in a little jon secada, and you'll see a smile on my face.

Excellent. I need to get hip to Jon secada. I usually rock black sabbath or zeppelin in these situations.

 

[AerroMatt]

Rockin in the cockpit

Excellent. I need to get hip to Jon secada. I usually rock black sabbath or zeppelin in these situations.

I guess I need to find out who this dude is too. My fav's are Rush, Journey, Clapton, Def Leppard, ZZ Top, Van Halen (pre and post David), and David Lee Roth... not necessarily in that order.

With that said, I'm gonna leave this post and Google Jon Secada

Peace, everyone.

 

[JohnnyP]

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Manhattan Transfer, Abba Gold,...............just kidding. Actually manhattan transfer isnt all that bad.

 

[Wankel7]

I love how this topic of listening to music in the cockpit acts like its on the forefront of new stuff to talk about.

How long has the ADF been out...how long have pilots been listening to music on it?

If anything it is safer now because an ipod/xm radio/mp3 is going to be much clearer and easier to hear while monitoring ATC and you don't have to re tune your xm radio as you cover ground.

 

[Flydaplane]

Who among us hasn't tried to pick up a NDB freq?
I think we should ban radios for big rig drivers because they don't need to be distracted. Let them drive for 8 hours straight focusing on the white lines and the guages on their trucks. I
f you're at cruise altitude and you've got a way to keep the radio calls from being missed, where's the harm? You're not sleeping, you can still monitor guages while listening...ever listened to the radio in your car and not crashed?

 

[XJETDriver]

There's been some recent threads on listening to music on flight decks. The first thing that came into my mind is, are these pilots for real? Shouldn't they be paying attention to the instruments (flight, engine, navigation, etc.)? I know flying cruise can be dull as a bowling ball. Speaking from a passenger's perspective, this topic would surely make a great story on the evening news. I would think listening to music is a distraction that compromises safety of flight. I know that there are no regulations against listening to music in the FARs, but do airline companies have policies against this because it can potentially compromise safety of flight? I can totally picture oil pressure dropping steadily as the pilots laugh their a$$ off on XM's comedy channel.

I know that pilots complain about the low pay scale and all, but when I read threads like this, it just gives airline management more fuel to justify cutting your pay. If I was management, my first argument to cut pay is, "well, they're up there listening to music on autopilot and not doing much so why are we paying them so much?"

Please forgive my ignorance to your day-to-day job. I just want to express a concern. What do other pilots think of this?

What do you think the Dr doing your open heart surgery is listening too? Maybe...Tom Petty, Korn...okay maybe not Korn. They have your life in their hands just as we do! Dr's jam out while doing surgery all the time... what is the difference? Nothing

 

[XJETDriver]

Finally, would you listen to your Ipod during an FAA enroute inspection? yes/no?

Would you talk below 10K while a line check was going on? No, but you would on a normal day, just like you would not jam out to your Ipod while being line checked. Good Day

 

[Wankel7]

What do you think the Dr doing your open heart surgery is listening too? Maybe...Tom Petty, Korn...okay maybe not Korn. They have your life in their hands just as we do! Dr's jam out while doing surgery all the time... what is the difference? Nothing

Outstanding point...and it isn't like they have a cruise portion of heart surgery!

 

[Flying Ninja]

What do you think the Dr doing your open heart surgery is listening too? Maybe...Tom Petty, Korn...okay maybe not Korn. They have your life in their hands just as we do! Dr's jam out while doing surgery all the time... what is the difference? Nothing

I think the difference is that the doctor kills one patient at a time, while pilots kill...well...enough said.

Anyway, the point of this discussion is whether listening to music in flight compromises safety and responsiveness of the crew and/or interferes with CRM. Some arguments I've read can easily be pointed to the basic five hazardous attitudes by CNN if one of these planes crash due to crew listening to iPods. I understand the ADF argument, but ADF don't give you the on-demand interactivity (more distraction over time) an iPod does.

The pilot view points are great. I'm curious as to what the airlines' and regulators' point of view on this is since this is a fairly new development in flight deck entertainment.