Listen up EXPRESSJET INTERVIEWEES

[missing man]

Don't go to the interview if your First Class Medical is 6 months and ten days old. NO EXCEPTIONS!

Don't go to the interview if your logbook does not show more than 60 hours in the last six months. NO EXCEPTIONS!

The first one put me on the street 1 hour into the process. They are hiring so don't give them a reason to can you.

Now don't everyone PM me on how I got the interview. I did the online thing just like everyone else. I even got the online rejection email today

 

[maxcackel]

Hmm, you would'nt happen to be out of RDU would you? I think I heard about this.

 

[snoopy_1]

When I applied through their online application it said I didn't meet their hiring requirements.
Over 3000 TT and a 737 Type, I've been layed off for 9 months and haven't flown anything accept 22 hours in a 737 sim in the last 6 months.

I guess they don't want to hire good pilots with a lot of experience.

 

[dorkdriver]

The interview at Coex was a joke when I went there. They acted like supreme beings or something. They called and I turned them down.

 

[Skyward]

They called and I turned them down.

Sure

 

[Skyward]

Okay, CitationMan! My bubble is now bursted.

 

[othello]

I know three guys that turned down Xjet offers, I talked to one who said the same thing as DorkDriver they dont treat their interviewes very well and he told them thanks but no thanks.
Sounds like whom ever is doing the interviews is a real A-hole.

By the way do they pay you during trainning yet? Last I heard no pay till after your checkride.

This was a couple of years ago but one guys I used to CFI with went there and after ground school + sim back up, no manuals exc exc. went $ broke after 4 months with out pay still not finished with training and had to quit to get a job to pay the pile of bills.

Hopfully they pay you to work there now, and training is work

 

[Skyward]

Thanks for the input, othello!

 

[othello]

Well what the answer? They still make you foot your own bill during training? SkyWord?

 

[Skyward]

You get perdium till sim check. Then normal pay.

 

[othello]

So NO Xjet dosn't pay their newhires during training. One more good reason to not take the offer. Hopefully your new contract will change that.

Not trying to be to negitive but there are a lot of places hiring right now, and most of them will pay you from day one.

A lot of folks cant afford to live on perdiem for months.

How long is training over there? Iam sure my friends 4 + months was just bad timing.

 

[chuychanga]

Two sides to every story...

When I interviewed, everyone was extremely polite and professional. The only ones they gave a hard time to were some dork that showed up with his laptop and tried to pass it off as his logbook (the actual laptop; he didn't even print it all out) and a couple of people who had logged lots of PIC time in aircraft they knew nothing about.

I turned down two jobs that pay during training to go to XJT because I was more interested in the long term. TransStates was a no-go, because when I met some pilots in the hotel and asked them how they liked it there one of them said, "I like it, it's a great group of guys that all watch out for each other. Like one time I was so hungover that I couldn't fly and my Captain just let me sleep the whole flight and he did all the work. See, we have good people here." Uhhh, no thanks. Then I interviewed at Eagle, but everyone I've ever met that works there has always hated it. Everyone I know who works for XJT loves it. That said a lot to me. To each his own, good luck.

 

[BigDave]

I just interviewed the other day at ExpressJet and I am very surprised to here that people thought the interviewers were not cool. I had a totally different experience, the people doing the interview were great, low key and totally fair with no attitude at all. I have interviewed at a few other regionals who were a-holes, but not ExpressJet.

As for pay during training they told us we would get a check for $1,482 for the duration of training.

 

[jrav8tor]

Missing man,

Sorry to hear about what happened. I do want to thank you for being so kind to provide this info. for all future hopefuls. I am sure their are others on this board thinking the same thing.

Sometimes I think your character and attitude are the minority here, unfortunately. Most people would have ranted and raved about how bad ABC airline is etc.

I wish you the best of luck in future opportunities.


As for two sides to every story, so true.

My good friend had an interview with Comair (our hometown airline). Needless to say, this was were he wanted to be. He was so disgusted with the interview process and the people conducting the interview, it changed his outlook on Comair.

Before he found out the bad news, he was seriously contemplating not taking it if they did offer. The interview experience left a bad taste for him.

On the other side, I know a few pilots flying for Comair and they enjoy it. They think the company is professional and organized. Not all roses, but for the most part ok. Disclaimer: Poll done after contract was ratified.

It's gotta be nice to be able to turn an offer down. Nice to have options.

 

[Sam Fisher]

The interview at Coex was a joke when I went there. They acted like supreme beings or something. They called and I turned them down.

Like someone said earlier, 2 sides to every story.

a) This was most definitely pre-9/11. Our entire interview process and recruiting team has changed since then.

b) If anyone judges an airline by their interview experience, that is quite myopic. It is no different than a passenger who has a bad flight who gets off and says, "Horrible landing, bad FA, I'm never flying this airline ever again." It just makes no sense in my opinion to judge an airline from one interview experience.

But hey, if it makes you feel better about "turning us down," then good on ya dude. Guess what, I turned down ACA. I suppose that makes me more of a big man, eh?

Sam

 

[Sam Fisher]

When I applied through their online application it said I didn't meet their hiring requirements.
Over 3000 TT and a 737 Type, I've been layed off for 9 months and haven't flown anything accept 22 hours in a 737 sim in the last 6 months.

I guess they don't want to hire good pilots with a lot of experience.

Actually, we do want to hire good pilots with experience...including experience in the past 6 months.

a) Our management has made a policy (right, wrong, whatever) of not hiring furloughed major airline pilots.

b) Our management has made a policy of wanting to hire pilots who are current. This seems like a good policy to me. Why should we hire someone who hasn't flown in 6 months when there are thousands of other pilots out there who meet the experience requirements who are actively flying?

Sam

 

[Sam Fisher]

By the way do they pay you during trainning yet? Last I heard no pay till after your checkride.

This was a couple of years ago but one guys I used to CFI with went there and after ground school + sim back up, no manuals exc exc. went $ broke after 4 months with out pay still not finished with training and had to quit to get a job to pay the pile of bills.

Hopfully they pay you to work there now, and training is work

a) Training program is now 6-8 weeks, start to finish, no delays.

b) Our management does not view a new hire as an "employee" until after they pass their simulator check ride and as such, only pays for hotels and expenses (per diem).

If someone is going to turn down a good company over not being paid for 6-8 weeks, so be it. I guess they can go to some of the other airlines that pay, even though their overall contract and career opportunities could be much worse over there. I don't follow the logic. Cheers.

Sam

 

[snoopy_1]

Actually, we do want to hire good pilots with experience...including experience in the past 6 months.

a) Our management has made a policy (right, wrong, whatever) of not hiring furloughed major airline pilots.

b) Our management has made a policy of wanting to hire pilots who are current. This seems like a good policy to me. Why should we hire someone who hasn't flown in 6 months when there are thousands of other pilots out there who meet the experience requirements who are actively flying?

Sam

1. I am not a furloughed major airline pilot, I am a furloughed Falcon 20 freightdog First Officer, only had a commercial ticket when I was furloughed, I procured WIA funds to supplement my GI Bill to get an Airline Transport Pilot certificate that came along with a B-737 Type Rating.

2. I am willing to bet that the 22 hours of 737 sim flying I did 3 months ago has made me more proficient than someone that has flown a real plane 60 hours in the past 6 months.

 

[othello]

a) Training program is now 6-8 weeks, start to finish, no delays.

b) Our management does not view a new hire as an "employee" until after they pass their simulator check ride and as such, only pays for hotels and expenses (per diem).

Sam

Ok so management says that, What about the Pilot Union? Stand up for the newbies. It is pure crap that managment still gets away with these 1980's policies.

p.s. even Masa pays during training. I know xjet has a better contract in 98% of the fields but it is to bad the news hires get bent over.

Is this something that is being pushed for in the new contract?

 

[Skyward]

Originally posted by Sam Fisher

a) Our management has made a policy (right, wrong, whatever) of not hiring furloughed major airline pilots.

Sam this is not true we are hiring many furloughed pilots and you do not have to give up your seniority number. You do have to be current though.