Life at UPS

[L'il J.Seinfeld]

Hello Upsers,
Current research has led me to ask, is the qol worth the night schedule? Do the trips take you away too long, are you enjoying the hell out of your work?

I only ask as my career is at a crossroads, first baby on the way, and flying pax is not it's cracked up to be.

350

I guess it depends on the fleet you choose, but QOL is the best part of this job and the pay aint bad either. We all do not fly at night either.

 

[767pilot]

kidflo

No I didn't forget the pool. No I didn't see the humor from his post. When it comes from a person who seems to like to stir things up, were is the humor in that??

Years to go before I upgrade.

As if that guy could do anything about it anyway. What a crock.

 

[767pilot]

Hello Upsers,
Current research has led me to ask, is the qol worth the night schedule? Do the trips take you away too long, are you enjoying the hell out of your work?

I only ask as my career is at a crossroads, first baby on the way, and flying pax is not it's cracked up to be.

350

Once you get some time under your belt, night is not the only option. The trips can be as short as an afternoon or a morning, or as long as two weeks. Your choice. I enjoy it as much as anything, but it is a job, not a hobby.

Bottom line, c'mon in, the water is fine!

 

[GogglesPisano]

How long before holding a line in ANC on the MD11? And how is the commute up there from, say, PHL or EWR? I'm assuming the ANC trips are the week on/week off type of thing.

World has lost 3 FO's to UPS in the last 2 months. I believe one had no internal recs.

 

[transpac]

wouldn't it be accurate to say that IPX was the origin of UPS, and the guys that came here from Orion, Evergreen, etc, interviewed and were hired the same as anyone else, albeit they were given some seniority benefits.

Correct! The IPX guys became 1 thru 25 (or 26) on the seniority list and everyone else had to apply and go thru the interview and hiring process. The UPS air carrier certificate was originally issued to International Parcel Express which was based in Oakland. UPS apparently had owned IPX since it was certified a year or so earlier. A bunch of Orion, etc. pilots didn't get hired and filed a lawsuit because UPS allegedly misled them into staying with the contractors until UPS was able to take over. I understand they collected some money from the lawsuit but they didn't get on the UPS seniority list.

 

[fartknocker]

I have read many 80 for 80 posts, aka The Guat, etc, etc. In my view he/she is either a UPS wannabe who never succeeded OR someone who’s been at UPS for a while and for whatever reason likes to pick on pilots who are still trying to get hired at UPS.

I heard he is an Eagle pilot.

 

[Airbum]

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[Airbum]

How long before holding a line in ANC on the MD11? And how is the commute up there from, say, PHL or EWR? I'm assuming the ANC trips are the week on/week off type of thing.

World has lost 3 FO's to UPS in the last 2 months. I believe one had no internal recs.

I would suspect ups started the ANC domicile to break up trips, i wouldn't plan on to majoritiy of trips being long blocks of days on. Currently ANC is the junior base with 747-400 FO slots needing to be filled with new hires.

Commuting might be harder do to the distance involved and the summer traffic to anchorage.

 

[Airbum]

Once you get some time under your belt, night is not the only option. The trips can be as short as an afternoon or a morning, or as long as two weeks. Your choice. I enjoy it as much as anything, but it is a job, not a hobby.

Bottom line, c'mon in, the water is fine!

Don't the afternoon trips end like at midnight to 0100 and the morning trips start around 0330?

 

[RogerOver]

Hello Upsers,
Current research has led me to ask, is the qol worth the night schedule? Do the trips take you away too long, are you enjoying the hell out of your work?

I guess "too long" is entirely subjective. I have a two-week trip coming up and that's my one commute for the month. I won't see SDF at all and most of this trip is during daylight hours (locally). I couldn't be happier.

Personally, I think the perception that flying freight means only flying at night is similar to the misconception people have when they ask you "what's your route?"

How long before holding a line in ANC on the MD11? And how is the commute up there from, say, PHL or EWR? I'm assuming the ANC trips are the week on/week off type of thing.

ANC is way too new of a domicile to predict what the trips like will be in the future...but I agree with the above poster in that while there may be some longer trips from ANC, many will likely be 4-on 3-off style.

UPS currently has no departures from PHL non-stop to ANC.

There is a UPS 1am departure EWR-ANC Tue-Sat morning and FedEx does EWR-ANC 7 nights a week, though Sunday night’s flight goes through ORD.

RO

 

[Archie Bunker]

World has lost 3 FO's to UPS in the last 2 months. I believe one had no internal recs.

One of them is in my class that started today!

 

[PreContact]

Future

Did they say anything about when the 727s will be gone?

 

[80for80]

Did they say anything about when the 727s will be gone?

ALL 727s gone by August 21, 2007. Two will be in "flyable storage" in ROW but will never fly again. They will be held in storage until they are fully depreciated, then they will be cut up.

 

[PreContact]

So will it be a gradual drawdown of 727 crewmembers via displacement bids throught the year?

 

[Archie Bunker]

So will it be a gradual drawdown of 727 crewmembers via displacement bids throught the year?

Pre,

They didn't address exactly how long it would take to train all the 727 guys, or how it would be accomplished.

I would take anything that 80for80 says with an extremely large grain of salt. He started the thread stating that "hiring would be stopped at UPS" a few days ago, which isn't true. In fact, he never answered the question where he worked or how he got this erroneous info.

 

[767pilot]

How long before holding a line in ANC on the MD11? And how is the commute up there from, say, PHL or EWR? I'm assuming the ANC trips are the week on/week off type of thing.

World has lost 3 FO's to UPS in the last 2 months. I believe one had no internal recs.

The travel between the cities is not bad wit FDX having non stops between EWR and ANC in both directions, UPS having a westbound nonstop, and talk of a PHL nonstop. The bg question is what will the schedules be like, and it is too soon to tell

 

[Ernst]

P.S. one call to my people in training and your next upgrade just got a lot harder

Hey, kidflo. Wow, who are you trying to impress? Put down the remote and step away from the Sopranos' re-runs. You don't bring credit to yourself or your employer. For that matter, you do your friend in the training department a disservice as well by suggesting that he or she would stoop to such unprofessional conduct. Wake up and take some happy pills, my friend.

 

[Aviator7576]

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Ernst...

Like the avatar...boat school?

Aviator7576

 

[Jurasicpilot]

I know a few over there, none have degrees. However the 76 FO I know does have 1 semester before he dropped out. He was hired in 2000 the others are recent new hires. If you dont have the degree dont even bother with FedEx, even with letters of rec it wont matter.