Liberal network 1st day report...

[Chas]

Well I spent a good part of today listening to the liberal networks first day . My honest opinion is that its days are numbered . The majority of what I heard was music and a whole lot of satire directed toward the right. Worse part was hearing Ralph Nader get abused by a female host who kept saying "she was mad at him for running" The guy ( Nader ) did not even get a word in .
Really folks isnt there more to banter between the two political parties than spoofing, satiring and bringing up Limbaugh's drug useage.?
Even worse was the impersonation of Ann Coulter (sp?) abusing a mexican worker over a vegetable platter in the "green room" Chas

 

[Q200_FO]

If ya can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen!

 

[414Flyer]

If Franken can get an audience, so be it. I wont be listening, I do not even think he is funny. Franken has even tried to start fights with other democrats who are not leftist enough.

 

[Typhoon1244]

So hard-core conservatives listened to a hard-core liberal radio show and didn't like what they heard.

Thanks, guys. That's a real newsflash.

 

[enigma]

I'm sorry, I didn't catch any liberals on the radio, no ....wait.... I did listen to the news, is that what you're refering to?




enigma

 

[Chas]

Hard core not not even close...

I would venture a guess most democrats or even liberals would have been dissapointed with the show . As far as taking the heat I think you should monitor the show before making a statement liker that. The show for lack of better words was almost juvenile.

Not only juvenile but .. "The Franken Factor " "Zero spin zone "
What do they say about imitation and flattery ??

BTW which if any of you Democrats or liberals listened and can give a true opinion??

Chas

 

[Typhoon1244]

...I didn't catch any liberals on the radio...wait...I did listen to the news...

Oh, those liberals in the media, huh? The ones who destroyed Clinton and Gore with All-Monica/All-Whitewater/All-the-Time? Those liberals?

C'mon, guys, the media cares about big stories. Liberal, conservative...none of it matters when it comes to getting an exclusive. The rest is just spin.

Originally posted by chas
What do they say about imitation and flattery ??

I don't know. Why don't you go look up "satire," then come back and ask us.

At any rate, no, I didn't hear the show, but I do have an opinion: the mainstream radio media is replete with arch-conservatives. It's good to know that someone--anyone--is trying to level the field somewhat...

...nah, who'm I kidding? That field will never be leveled. Blasted and cratered, maybe, but not leveled.

 

[GogglesPisano]

Re: Hard core not not even close...

Not only juvenile but .. "The Franken Factor " "Zero spin zone "
What do they say about imitation and flattery ??


Chas

Well Fox News will probably say, "We'll sue that sonafabitch Franken and win ... no wait, we tried hat already and were laughed out of court (literally.)"

 

[Timebuilder]

opinion: the mainstream radio media is replete with arch-conservatives.

Stop it!! You're killing me!! ROFLMAO!!

As for this sage bit of wisdom:

Well Fox News will probably say, "We'll sue that sonafabitch Franken and win ... no wait, we tried hat already and were laughed out of court (literally.)"

I don't recall any laughter in the court, but I have an interesting perspective for you.

When liberal music companies lose money from internet downloads, they sue college students. Sue their target demograpahic. Really smart.

When someone infringes on a copyright of a more conservative group, well heck, that's okay, isn't it? After all, we liberals are more enlightened and progressive, isn't that right?

I love the inconsistencies. Makes it worth getting up in the morning. I can't wait to see where this idea goes in a year. Hint: they may not even be around then.

Some of these people will end up in a "magazine" format on NPR, since a profit making network could not make much of a dollar on this kind of nonsense. Instead, it will be supported by taxpayers and subscribers.

The market will vote, and there will be no "hanging chads" about which to complain.

 

[GogglesPisano]

TB:

Next you'll be telling us that the judge in the Fox vs Franken case was a liberal, right?

As far as conservatives in the media, have you listened to a.m. radio lately?

How about Fox News? Or any business-oriented venue like CNBC?

 

[enigma]

Oh, those liberals in the media, huh? The ones who destroyed Clinton and Gore with All-Monica/All-Whitewater/All-the-Time? Those liberals?

Sorry Typhoon, but the broadcast media is over 90% Democrat. That fact was reported widely about five years ago.

C'mon, guys, the media cares about big stories. Liberal, conservative...none of it matters when it comes to getting an exclusive. The rest is just spin.

Wrong, the media sat on the Lewinski story for a long time. Only after Matt Drudge posted the story did the mainstream media run it.

At any rate, no, I didn't hear the show, but I do have an opinion: the mainstream radio media is replete with arch-conservatives. It's good to know that someone--anyone--is trying to level the field somewhat...

...nah, who'm I kidding? That field will never be leveled. Blasted and cratered, maybe, but not leveled.

Neither did I hear such a show. If I happen across it on the dial, I'll listen long enough to make a reasonable decision on continuing to do so.

BTW, most people I know, consider the media to be made up of the news community. In my opinion, the arch conservatives you refer to are not media, they are entertainment. The happen to be informative, but they make no claim to be unbiased media. I know that you'll find this hard to believe , but I've been listening to Limbaugh for fifteen years. He has never claimed to be media. He, Hamblin, Hannity, Gallagher, Schnitt, Beck, etc , never put themselves off as unbiased. And I'm smart enough to understand that when I listen.

BTW, the playing field is level. Anyone who can draw an audience will get his chance. Limbaugh is successfull because 20 million listeners a week tune in to his show. The same for the rest of the arch conservatives. If the liberal hosts can draw an audience, they too will be successful.

Unless you consider equal to mean equal outcome instead of equal opportunity.

Finally, the ex - Texas Land Commissioner, Jim Hightower had a syndicated talk show about ten years ago, it would surprise you to learn that I listened to him as often as I listened to Limbaugh. Hightower is a serious liberal. He calls himself a populist, but he was a government loving, capitalist hating liberal. I found him as entertaining as Limbaugh, because he he backed up his rhetoric, or at least he tried to back it up. Matter of fact, Hightower is partly responsible for my willingness to step back and question the party line, all party lines.
enigma

 

[Typhoon1244]

...the media sat on the Lewinski story for a long time. Only after Matt Drudge posted the story did the mainstream media run it.

You make it sound like they were forced to give it a couple lines on page ten. Memory fading, enigma? You couldn't pass within five feet of a television without hearing something about Monica, Bill, cigars, stained dresses, etc, etc.

If this liberal bias in the media really existed, don't you think they'd have buried the story, regardless of when they "noticed" it?

 

[Chas]

What I find interesting is...

that the left leaning folks here are giving the show the "stamp of approval" without even hearing it. This is on par with voting party line only . Even I voted Demo 2x's in my life because I LISTENED to what was out there Chas

 

[100LL... Again!]

Even though I loathe their ethics, I would listen in if the show was intelligently done.

For example, if Dennis Miller was a liberal, the show could have some possibilities.

Big mistake signing Franken. He's a walking parody of himself.

And skits making fun of Ann Coulter and Rush?
Since when does this constitute real discourse?

Rush doesn't spend too much time picking on Franken, really.

Rush goes after the politicians themselves, with facts.
A liberal comedy show whose specialty is name calling and hatcheting conservative comentators?

Now we know who the real intellectuals are.

I've seldom been in a debate with a liberal who could go more than three sentences without juvenile name-calling.

They are entitled to their opinions, but why should I heed anything they say when it is all based on raw emotion and wishful thinking?

Liberal thought - the junk food of philosophy.

 

[bart]

I listened to Franken on XM yesterday, and it is basically a comedy show. All satire, no factual discussion of news and events. And most of all, no interaction with his audience...

In all, when their cash runs out they are done. The show will probably not garner new stations, as it grew tiring after 15 to 20 minutes.

I am not a big Howard Stern fan, but at least he is interesting.

I hope htese guys succeed, because if they don't, look for the dems to want to suppress talk radio, or come up with some sort of "fairness doctrine". Given what I heard yesterday, I will give their chances of survival about 10%, but only if their hosts start figuring out a formula that will engage the audience.

 

[festus]

Its too bad the liberal radio show didn't start today...

 

[Timebuilder]

TB:

Next you'll be telling us that the judge in the Fox vs Franken case was a liberal, right?

As far as conservatives in the media, have you listened to a.m. radio lately?

How about Fox News? Or any business-oriented venue like CNBC?

I am SO glad you asked.

If I recall, the judge was a Clinton appointee. Now, every president appoints judges, and during the Clinton years, the republican party went along with the appointments of the liberal democrats.

Why did they do that?

Because the congressional mandate for judicial approval is to advise and consent, not obstruct. That's why Bush's appointments are not being approved. Most are being denied a vote at all. Once again, liberals give themselves a different standard that varies with the situation. Just like the sueing of college students versus a less liberal copyright holder, liberals make up the rules as they go along, according to an extremely malleable set of "values.".

Yes, I listened to AM radio lately. I got my start at NBC in NY, a mostly AM network. I know what has happened recently, too.

The remark I was addressing related to radio news. Let's say for the sake of the argument that Clear Channel, owned by a self-described cocnservative, owns a large portion of stations that have made a teriffic success carrying programs like Rush Hannity, and O'Reilly. Who does their news, by an undeniable majority?

It's our old liberal friends: CBS, NBC, and ABC.

How about Fox News, or CNBC? Fox makes a policy of having liberal views on board. How else to refute those views? You won't see ANY conservative views on CNN, though. They don't want to be "fair and balanced." CNN is a group of liberal partisan ideologues, and no attempts are made to be equal, fair, unbiased, or balanced. It isn't a part of their agenda.

CNBC? You mean that a business topic is somehow liberal or conservative, from a standpoint of reporting? I thought numbers, accurately reported by experienced business anchors, had no philospohical or political affiliation?

Ever watch Kudlow and Cramer? Jim Cramer is a dyed in the wool liberal, but he's one of my favorite reporters in this area. He does not lie, or try and twist the facts. It's business and investing, period. I can't see what your beef with CNBC would be, unless you think that reporters should regularly launch into a diatribe about the power of the proletariat or the means of production.

They'd be a laughing stock if they did.

Thanks for the opportunity to clear that stuff up. Glad to help out.

 

[bart]

Having put some thought into the differences between Franken and Limbaugh, the major difference is this:

Limbaugh takes calls and debates his listeners.

Franken does not talk to his listeners, much less debate them.

I wonder why?


I have my thoughts on it.

What are yours?

 

[Chas]

Lets call a shovel a shovel

To be Politically correct

I was a listener to Rush at one time. I have grown tired of him even though I agree with him.
Unfortunately Dems will circle the wagon to back anyone as long he' s one of there own. Since when should a coke user hurl insults at a prescription drug abuser??
Franken - Garofalo ??? Come on lets get real . Is that all they have If I was a Dem I would be pretty scared.I think they will do more to hurt the party than help .Chas

 

[TWA Dude]

Re: Lets call a shovel a shovel

Is that all they have If I was a Dem I would be pretty scared.I think they will do more to hurt the party than help .Chas

I don't think it will affect the Dem party one way or another. It's entertainment and the point of entertainment is profit, something even a Republican can understand. If Franken et al can attract an audience the show will stay, otherwise it won't.

Dude