liberal hypocrisy

[Timebuilder]

I see.

I guess his use of cruise missles at a time when his shananigans would be all over the front page was just a coincidence.

It's possible, I grant you that. But, when taken in the context of the character of the man, I don't think it was a coincidence.

Reagan's own physician stated that the President was likely suffering from the initial stages of the condition--undiagnosed--while he was still in office.

Two things: this is speculative, at best, on the part of the physician, and, having the beginning of the disease is not even close to being so debilitated as to preclude his ability to lead the nation.

 

[Super 80]

Originally by Typhoon1244
You actually bought that 700 Club hogwash? What's next, chemtrails?

Bovine blossoms.

What do you call an aspirin factory in the Sudan?

Before you challenge an assertion, perhaps you ought to get your facts straight.

Bill Clinton killed innocent people to cover up the investigation into Monica Lewinsky.

He also shuffled the blame about killing innocent children onto "burn-baby-burn" Janet El Reno.

 

[Typhoon1244]

Bill Clinton killed innocent people to cover up the investigation into Monica Lewinsky.

Oh, so you're saying it was sort of like the Enron/Iraq thing. Got it.

(The Iraqis were far from innocent, of course. That's the beauty of the scheme. On the other hand we haven't found any W.M.D.'s, have we?)

 

[Typhoon1244]

...this is speculative, at best, on the part of the physician...

Perhaps so. Alzheimer's is not perfectly understood...yet.

...and, having the beginning of the disease is not even close to being so debilitated as to preclude his ability to lead the nation.

I would say that's speculative at beast, for the same reason stated above.

 

[Timebuilder]

I would say that's speculative at beast, for the same reason stated above.

I feel pretty comfortable with my speculation for this reason: there is no evidence that I know of that indicates that Reagan's abilities were compromised during his service. Heck I don't have the disease, and I still have CRS!

 

[Super 80]

On the other hand we haven't found any W.M.D.'s, have we?)

No what we have found is evidence for a nuclear program, the mobile NBC labs and the actual missiles that were converted to bio/chem warhead capability.

Further, we have evidence that late in the game, these weapons, which can be very minute, were shipped to Syria.

Try again with the Enron/Haliburton (what you meant to say) thing.

There is nothing to compare with what Bill Clinton did taking a shot in the dark and killing people that posed NO threat to us whatsoever just so his getting a blow job in the oval office, while at work for the American people, with a girl the age of his daughter, who was also an underling of his, which gets into sexual harassment wouldn't be on the front page, which he then lied about to a Federal Judge and was fined for that offence, and subsequently lost his license as a lawyer both in Arkansas and in front of the Supreme Court.

There's a reason he was impeached. Too bad he wasn't convicted too.

Traitors that give missile technology to our enemies ought to be shot by a firing squad.

 

[CitationLover]

vote all encumbents out. why is it that a LACK of experience is viewed as a negative?!?!? it should be a positive. and whats the deal with suits? can we get past early 20th century fashion and move on to....parachute pants.

you want a conservative bashing bush....here you go. he is a liberal in disguise who has bloated the federal govt due to the fact that 19 idiots crashed airplanes. the patriot act is stupid and unnecessary. i mean the govt screws up, misses these 19 people and they have the gall to "reward" us with an enhanced fbi/cia/homeland security bs.

our country blindly supporting Israel (whose elected leader allowed the massacre of 3000 people in Beirut) is a stupid policy. its time to get a candidate that is finally tough on Israel, starting with apologizing for the murder of american citizens in the Liberty incident (their relatives ask their president this every year). if we were to take this stance then the "moderate" arab governments might actually believe some of our policies/actions.

what's sad is you look across and see Howard Dean, Dick Gephardt, Wesley Clark etc and you shake your head.

we need a president who was lifted from working weekends at the local BP.

my political $0.02.

 

[Timebuilder]

Oh, so you're saying it was sort of like the Enron/Iraq thing.

I must have missed that one.

Are you saying that Sadaam is alive and well as an Arthur Anderson accountant?

 

[Super 80]

our country blindly supporting Israel (whose elected leader allowed the massacre of 3000 people in Beirut) is a stupid policy. its time to get a candidate that is finally tough on Israel, starting with apologizing for the murder of american citizens in the Liberty incident (their relatives ask their president this every year). if we were to take this stance then the "moderate" arab governments might actually believe some of our policies/actions.

I support Israel. God does too. If you don't then you better question which side you're on.

 

[Dieterly]

please put down the crack pipe

What do you call an aspirin factory in the Sudan?

Tell me you are not that stupd? A country that don't even have friggin toilet paper all sudenly have a high tech medical industry?

BTW a 20' container filled with asprins most likely covers a 20 years supply of asprins in Sudan. Then why a hell would they a asprin factory?

 

[Timebuilder]

Maybe we need to ask Mark about that "breathalyzer" plug-in....

 

[Super 80]

Re: please wake up and smell the coffee

Tell me you are not that stupd? A country that don't even have friggin toilet paper all sudenly have a high tech medical industry?

Stupid is as stupid does, then I guess Bill Clinton didn't have to send that apology later, or all the press coverage was made up.

Who's stupid now? Challenge the facts and all you're going to do is get burned.

Other than that, your liberal bias is showing, and the first thing that happens when your side is losing the argument is the insults start to flow.

Your Billy-boy perfected the technique, it's called smearing your attackers.

P.S. I saw where the much hated Linda Tripp got 595,000 dollars from the government over their (political) release of her personal data while employed at the Pentagon.

 

[CitationLover]

Super80 said:

I support Israel. God does too. If you don't then you better question which side you're on.


oh no please not theology....Super80 please reread the Bible and call me when you have a clue. God's covenant with Israel was through JESUS and ONLY him. Jews not believing is no different than Arab non-believers. Paul got so fed up with the jews that he went to the gentiles. I believe Paul said there is neither Jew or Greek. If you believe this blindly, please pass all the ham you're not eating my way.

I guess you support the enslavement of people. The murder of children. A democracy with a caste system you support. A nation built on relocation reparations yet refuses to pay the same to the palestinians you support. Israel is no friend.

 

[Typhoon1244]

I must have missed that one. Are you saying that Sadaam is alive and well as an Arthur Anderson accountant?

No, I'm saying that an overseas war--particularly a telegenic one--is an excellent way of drawing attention away from troubling domestic issues. It worked for Geroge I, sort of. Why shouldn't it work for his son, too?

Originally posted by Super80
...your liberal bias is showing, and the first thing that happens when your side is losing the argument is the insults start to flow.

Right, conservatives never do that!

Just like when Clinton got caught calling a reporter an a--hole. Remember that?

Oh, that's right. That was W. that did that...

 

[CitationLover]

i actually thought that was funny...W calling the reporter an ahole. Cheney follows with "Big time!"

 

[Typhoon1244]

I just noticed this:

I support Israel. God does too. If you don't then you better question which side you're on.

God supports Israel? Did God pick up the hotline and tell you that?

Tell me why anything you offer to this thread has any credibility after you make a remark like this.

If there was a god who took an active role on Earth, nobody would know who Al Sharpton is!

 

[Timebuilder]

God supports Israel? Did God pick up the hotline and tell you that?

No need for the hotline.

The Bible makes the importance of Israel clear. He clearly supports Israel.

 

[CitationLover]

Paul didn't think so, I think he knows more about Christianity than any of us.....

 

[Super 80]

God's covenant with Israel was through JESUS and ONLY him.

Oh how uninformed we are.

Salvation is from the Jews --Jesus, Jn 4:22

From the root of Jesse --Isaiah 11:10

The covenant with Israel is eternal, because God does not go back on His word.

The earliest Christians were all Jews.

We gentiles are grafted into the covenant made with Israel --Romans 11:17-27

Read Ezekiel chapter 16:1-14 and tell me how God does not honor His vows even for the unfaithful bride! I might point you to Hosea about taking an adulteress for a wife as a symbol for what God has had to endure with Israel.

Satan will pursue the woman (the nation). --Revelation 12:13

But God will protect her (the nation). --Rev 12:6 and 12:14

And after the Day of the LORD, God still has plans for Israel (the nation). --Zechariah 12:10-13:1

Anti-Semitism is inline with the Devil's work. God has made a promise to the nation of Israel, a promise they never fully took, but there will be a time when God fulfills that promise fully.

 

[Super 80]

Paul didn't think so, I think he knows more about Christianity than any of us.....

NONSENSE!

RO 11:17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not boast over those branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in." 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.

RO 11:22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. 23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!

RO 11:25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:

"The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.

RO 11:27 And this is my covenant with them
when I take away their sins."

 

[Super 80]

Tell me why anything you offer to this thread has any credibility after you make a remark like this.

Oooh the credibility factor!

Read it and weep. You don't know your recent history and you don't know the Bible.

As my grand-uncle would say, "Ah your feet stink and you don't love Jesus."

 

[CitationLover]

there it is anti-semitism when one questions the actions of Israel.

SuperDuper80 how uninformed you are.

Salvation is from the Jews --Jesus, Jn 4:22 - he is speaking about HIMSELF!!!

The covenant with Israel is eternal, because God does not go back on His word. - Duh. The covenant is through Jesus who fulfilled it. Only through him can a relationship with God be made. Jews are non-believers not alike other sects.

The earliest Christians were all Jews. - so what.


Just curious....

does your wife wear a hat to cover her head in church? does she speak in church? do you have sex with a menstruating women? the bible discusses these topics too.

i'm getting a baptist vibe from you. just curious....what do you take Paul means when he says Israel in Romans 11? its a lot different than the current "Israel".

 

[Skyboss]

Oh, so you're saying it was sort of like the Enron/Iraq thing. Got it.

Actually, the Enron problem occured under Clinton. It was exposed under Bush. Liberals tend to make this tie incorrectly because it's so easy to tie conservatives to big oil.

 

[Typhoon1244]

...you don't know the Bible.

I actually know the Bible far better than you do.

It's funny you should mention it, though, because I have a book right here that says you're a lunatic. No, seriously! Right here in Exclamations chapter 4, verse 11, it says, "I say unto you that Super 80 and Timebuilder are lunatics." And I know it's true because it's the "Word of God." Now I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, "no it isn't." Well you're wrong, because right at the beginning, Premeditations chapter 1, verse 1, it says "this is the Word of God."

So there!

 

[Timebuilder]

There are a great many people who don't understand why we support Israel. Feet notwithstanding, Israel is our most important ally in the mideast.

 

[Typhoon1244]

Liberals tend to make this tie incorrectly because it's so easy to tie conservatives to big oil.

Oh, why don't you just hop on the next Maglev out of here...

 

[bigD]

do you have sex with a menstruating women?

Do they call it, "getting your red wings" in the Bible, too?

 

[Super 80]

there it is anti-semitism when one questions the actions of Israel.

SuperDuper80 how uninformed you are.

Salvation is from the Jews --Jesus, Jn 4:22 - he is speaking about HIMSELF!!!

The covenant with Israel is eternal, because God does not go back on His word. - Duh. The covenant is through Jesus who fulfilled it. Only through him can a relationship with God be made. Jews are non-believers not alike other sects.

The earliest Christians were all Jews. - so what.


Just curious....

does your wife wear a hat to cover her head in church? does she speak in church? do you have sex with a menstruating women? the bible discusses these topics too.

i'm getting a baptist vibe from you.

HA!

Tell me what were the covenants that God made with Abraham, Isaac and the Israelites? Tell me what were the terms?

Now tell me the prophecy God told Israel about His plan of Salvation.

Are they not different?

Didn't Paul say God's plan would be a stumbling block to the Jews and foolishness to the Greeks?

About your points:

1. Jesus is speaking of Himself.
2. The covenant does not include Salvation. Salvation is not a birthright.
3. So what? So everything! Jesus is the natural extension of the Jewish faith! The first Christians (before they even knew they were termed "Christian") were just following God's Word in the law, the prophets and the other writings.
4. I am not a Baptist, but my first act of obedience was to be baptized after I came to faith in Jesus.

 

[Timebuilder]

Maybe the bible that Typhoon is referring to is the New York Times!

 

[Typhoon1244]

Do they call it, "getting your red wings" in the Bible, too?

No, they call it "getting thy red wings."