Liberal Captains and Bad Weather

[Typhoon1244]

Appologies for drunken rage...

(Maybe that eight-hour rule should apply to Flightinfo, too... )

 

[Cat Driver]

DC4 Boy :

What kind of a yard stick is being strapped to an airtanker?

Is that something special?

Cat Driver.

 

[Tim47SIP]

sarcasm?

It's called "sarcasm." I'll explain it to you later.

Well, it is still pretty weird

 

[Typhoon1244]

Re: sarcasm?

Well, it is still pretty weird...

That's okay, I understand. I've never known conservatives to have much sense of humor or imagination...

 

[DC4boy]

I guess not Cat Driver....

Means something to me though..........

Perhaps you could shed some insight on what might be a good "yard stick(?)" ??

I shoud have known better than to post half drunk and angry.

 

[Dubya]

Now wait just a cotton....

.......pickin minute dammit. No sense of humor? No imagination? C'mon...I can agree to disagree when it comes to politics....but dammit man....that is just low. Go back and check out my April fools gag.....that is dammed imaginative...dammit, and I am dammed funny too, and dammit if you don't think so. Dammit.
Dammed liberals.

W

 

[Dubya]

Dammit

 

[Cat Driver]

DC4 boy:

No offense meant, hell everyone on these forums gets all bent out of shape and gets their nuts crushed by their peers.

But seriously as far as real flying skills go for me it was aerial application, that really was the most demanding of all the flying jobs I ever had.

I did eight years both fixed and rotary wing and still think it was the best flying bar none...the worst was night bag runs with piston engine airplanes during the winter..haven't the faintest idea how I ever survived that era of my career.

I found fire bombing to be a real good job and quite enjoyed doing it.

Cat Driver.

 

[Typhoon1244]

Re: Now wait just a cotton....

No sense of humor? Dammit.

Thank you for illustrating my point. (See, the " " was supposed to be a clue that you shouldn't get to wrapped around the axle over my remark.)

Here, I'll show you: your mother wears Army shoes...

 

[Dubya]

Dammit man!

That was tongue in cheek dammit....I just wanted to see how many "dammit's" I could get in there...dammit. C'mon dammit..you didn't really think I was wrapped around my axle did you? Dammit.

Just to put my post in context...this was something that came up in conversation today at work....guess you had to be there dammit. I swear it was funny dammit.

W

 

[Chunk]

Need to update that pic...they're growing like weeds! My daughter is mobile now...has led to some interesting problems (head stuck under tv stand)...

 

[DC4boy]

I hate liberals

 

[mar]

I'm here for you.

It's not your fault you're drunk every night.

You probably had a very difficult childhood.

Is there anything else besides hate that you're feeling right now?

Would you like to share it with us?

If I could, I'd give you a big hug right now.

Sleep tight.

 

[414Flyer]

Back to topic

Liberal Capt - "You see, it is unfair if we do not fly through the hailstorm. There are gays, people of color, HIV patients, welfare mothers being made to actually work, transexuals, etc, who are being subjected to that hail storm, and it would not be right for us to avoid the storm, just because we are so priviledged to be able to steer clear of it when those, especially oppressed minorities, on the ground can not.

So in the interesting of equality and multiculturalism, we must all endure the hailstorm, so the misery and hardship can be spread around and experienced by all, and no one is lucky enough to win lifes lottery and be a pilot, propelled away from the hail, by the products of an evil petroleum industry and capitalism.

And besides, if we get enough dents on the aircraft, we will play connect the dots and make a picture of Che Guevara on one side of the aircraft, and an upside down pink triangle on the other side."

 

[Typhoon1244]

My daughter is mobile now...has led to some interesting problems (head stuck under tv stand)...

:Yikes.

Originally posted by 414Flyer
...an upside down pink triangle on the other side.

Too late...Northwest already has that.

 

[UpNDownGuy]

414 Fyer...LMAO!!!

Ok, 414Flyer...That was funny. You're the humor winner so far...wrong side of the argument, but still the funniest...

 

[Herman Bloom]

I hate liberals

That's because you're an idiot.

 

[avbug]

I did eight years both fixed and rotary wing and still think it was the best flying bar none...I found fire bombing to be a real good job and quite enjoyed doing it.

I flew scoopers for fifteen years both North and South America and I can assure you we regularly dropped directly on the fire line. ( mostly the head )

Yes I quit the business in 1986, however in the fifteen years that I did fly water bombers…

Eight years flying both, or fifteen years in the Catalina doing fires?

Which one?

 

[Cat Driver]

What exactly is your problem with me and my posts, Avbug.

I flew aerial application for seven years ( seasons ) on fixed wing aircraft as follows, J3 Cub - Super Cub- Stearman - Piper Pawnee 235. And one year ( season ) on helicoprers Hughes 300. For a total of eight years as an Ag. Pilot

I flew fifteen years as a Captain on PBY 5A - PBY - 6A - And the PBY Super Cat.

Now that we have that all laid out is there anything else I can help you out with?

Cat Driver.

 

[TurboS7]

Liberal???If you have the RVR that you need for the approach you shoot the approach and land, that is called being a professional. If you see a TRW you go around it. At altitude you give yourself 5 miles for every 5 knots of wind up to 20 miles. Icing, no problem with modern equipment. For you piston guys that is a diffrent thread, you guys are the real heros. Lastly runway conditions, that is the most important and the one that any captain that is worth anything will worry about.

 

[avbug]

What exactly is your problem with me and my posts, Avbug.

I don't need to have a problem. Your posts, your numbers, your descriptions, your information, and your background are a problem all by themselves. They don't add up, and don't equate to whom you proclaim yourself to be.

Your sappy insults and garbage that got bantied about during the "747 firebomber" thread was what I just quoted, following your discourse with DC4boy regarding fire flying.

Someone telephoned me, and asked if airtanker pilots ever refer to what we do as firebombing. Had nothing to do with you. Nope, I said. That's a term that people outside the business, and the media, use. Then they asked about your reference to firebombing. I told them that you're Canadian, different terminology, and yes, it's possible. But what about this eight years vs. fifteen years, they asked. Dunno, I said. Until they phoned, I hadn't read the thread. So I posted.

Apparently when you were talking to DC4boy about fire, you were also referring to ag at the same time and didn't make it clear. It appears clear now. However, your comments from before indicate either a very clear lack of fire experience or just experience from the good old cowboy days. It surely doesn't work like that any more; the industry has learned better.

As for DC4boy's parrying with Mar...it's a losing battle. Mar has more flight and avaition experience at this stage than DC4boy will have during his entire career, and in more aircraft. I think dyncorp and CDF has gone to his brain. I have a lot of respect for anything that Mar has to say. Further, he's got the experience and the authority to earn that respect.

As far as him being in a douglas product, he didn't simply get given his current position in the airplane. He earned it, as has recently A Squared. When I say earned, I don't mean he waited until his seniority number came up and then simply slid into the position. I mean he earned it in blood, sweat, and tears, and it should have been his a long time ago. Make no mistake about it.

Now that we have that all laid out is there anything else I can help you out with?

No.

 

[Cat Driver]

Well Avbug fortunately I do not need your approval to run my business.

I truly don't understand why you are so suspicious about my background, not that it really matters.

But I would be careful about making sweeping statements denigrating total strangers because you just might end up looking more of a fool than you appear to be.

Then again I have met a lot of insecure people in aviation, maybe thats your real problem.

Oh, by the way fire bombing is a Canadian thing.......Maybe you just haven't done much travelling huh?

Has it ever occured to you that I don't have the same facination with your background that you seem to have with mine?

Its because I am not insecure...

Oh one more comment Avbug, I have understated my background and flight time when I filled out the personal stuff here.,..because I'm not insecure and it really does not mean all that much in the grand scheme of things.

Cat Diver

 

[avbug]

Understated, mate? You've gone out of your way to sell yourself and your background. Have a ball.

 

[mar]

Ah, for cryin' out loud

It was much more fun when DC4boy and I were sluggin' it out 'cause it was dumb and didn't mean anything.

But it kinda bums me out to see two of my favorite posters takin' pot shots at each other.

But it's interesting, isn't it, how people with ostensibly similiar backgrounds go head to head?

DC4boy/mar
Avbug/Cat Driver

I wonder what's really at the bottom of it all?

 

[Crizz]

Politics Mr Mar... Politics.




**CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** liberals

 

[DC4boy]

"I think dyncorp and CDF has gone to his brain. "

Just exactly what does that mean?

I respect mar, as I do you. You guys have earned it.

As far as my career goes, you dont know me, what i've done, where I'm going. Dont be so quick to judge.....

Dyncorp and CDF; The most proffesional, highest paid operation in the business.

I disagree with mar politically, not aviationally......

"Never dislike someone based on political views"....................

 

[Cat Driver]

Mar :

Good question, sometimes people will read something into a typed post that was not there.

Avbug and I got off to a bad start about flying air tankers. It is not the way I wish to interact with my colleauges in aviation, but sometimes emotions will overcome common sense.

I wish to apologize for being so juvenile.

I would far rather discuss flying on the same level you and I did on the Alaska thread, that was interesting and comfortable discussion.

Spent a lot of time on the phone to England last couple of days, the London Tel Aviv ferry is now a go. Just waiting for the insurance cost and now comes the flight permits headache and making sure 100LL is available at the airports we flight plan to.... It can sometimes be a real problem.

Cat.

 

[mar]

Testosterone: the bane of good sense

Cat Driver--you don't owe me an apology. I'm just as guilty as the next guy of unzipping my fly to see who measures up.

As I mentioned in "I want my $50 back" this website is brimming with testosterone.

But I try to keep it in perspective. Have a little fun with it. After all, it's cool to flex your muscles a little but the *key* is you gotta look like you just happened to flex that muscle as part of a natural act.

Again, I offer myself as an example. I happen to think I'm the best goddam pilot to ever walk the face of the earth. But it's really tacky to say so, see?

So what I gotta do is offer some incidental story about how I was flying with this really green and quite illiterate young republican...

<flips the finger, shouts an obscenity and leaves>

**CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** facists!!!!

 

[414Flyer]

Dyncorp and CDF; The most proffesional, highest paid operation in the business.

Yes CDF, the best firefighters in the world. Just ask them!

Heard that joke some last summer. It wasnt referring to the aerial side though. Aerial side seems to be pretty well respected.

Actually the way how California and CDF run the aerial side, might be the future for the tanker industry. A system where the feds and DoD retain title to future surplus aircraft, and contractors fly them might be what happens, since the aircraft now, certainly will not be around forever.

 

[DC4boy]

Well I was.

The absolute best...

Hands down!!!