Let the rumours FLY ....

[Jack Campbell]

Unlikely for him to earn that much. He either got very lucky with after-midnights or was padding his numbers. He had to earn over 20% over his 18 Day schedule in overtime.

 

[BeenThereDoneIt]

RJ: I hope you're joking!!! If not, that is exactly the same short sighted thinking that has ruined the rest of the industry. How long do you think those "quick" upgrade will last?

BTDI: That "quick upgrade" promise only lasted 8 months while I was there. I gave them my 1 year training contract and bailed on them. 1 year upgrades at poverty pay has now become 3-4 year upgrades at poverty pay.

 

[BoilerUP]

Unlikely for him to earn that much. He either got very lucky with after-midnights or was padding his numbers. He had to earn over 20% over his 18 Day schedule in overtime.

He did say he worked the 18-day schedule with a lot of overtime, late pay, holidays, etc.

 

[CRJFlyer]

Unlikely for him to earn that much. He either got very lucky with after-midnights or was padding his numbers. He had to earn over 20% over his 18 Day schedule in overtime.

14% over year 1 when we were busier. Maybe 2 aftermidnights 1 extended day...I cleared 80 first year, and 79 and some change this year..(took the reduced schedule for the summer). didn't pad my numbers at all...18 day schedule (I don't like 7 day trips)

 

[CRJFlyer]

He did say he worked the 18-day schedule with a lot of overtime, late pay, holidays, etc.

I'm glad some people actually read the posts before they respond. In January/Feb '08 we were so busy that I was getting 5-10 hrs OT just for showing up to the airport early.

 

[CRJFlyer]

I know a guy who just got furloughed that cleared over $100k in 2009 as a 3rd year NJA FO.

I was at 2 years 3 months...If I didn't bring home $5200 take home per month I was dissapointed... That was with out OT, contributing 19%, and working approx. 3 six day trips......Typically the only time I made less was during recurrent or sim.

I could definitely see a guy already in his 3rd year working alot bringing home over 6 figures. It may take some after midnights or luckily scheduling but definitely doable. Could also be on a larger fleet.

I'm just dumbfounded anyone would support the idea that it's ok to accept low wages because they feel their peers will just upgrade in 4 years!! That's great Mesa thinking there.

 

[BeenThereDoneIt]

MESA thinking....LOLOL. By the way.....Avantair's version of "after midnight pay" is "after 4 00 AM pay."

 

[Grizz]

At six years at Avantair you are a Captain. 6 years at NetJets you are an FO.

Incorrect. The most junior Captain at NetJets has been here 4 years and 4 months.

 

[jonjuan]

Incorrect. The most junior Captain at NetJets has been here 4 years and 4 months.

This difference will only change and dramatically. NJA is LUCKY they didn't downgrade as they could have, otherwise the numbers would change once again.

 

[Grizz]

Really jonjuan? Since you profess to be an expert on our CBA, please enlighten me as to how they could have downgraded. I'll be here waiting...

 

[Jack Campbell]

Good to hear some of us were making OT money there. I chose the 7/7 due to family needs and the IBB contract was a great raise. But for me, 2009 saw almost no overtime and only one after midnight. OT increased later in the year and it seemed like the guys who were not furloughed were going to do very well with OT in 2010.

 

[glasspilot]

Good to hear some of us were making OT money there. I chose the 7/7 due to family needs and the IBB contract was a great raise. But for me, 2009 saw almost no overtime and only one after midnight. OT increased later in the year and it seemed like the guys who were not furloughed were going to do very well with OT in 2010.

Really!?? You just said that out loud on a public forum?

 

[fischman]

Really jonjuan? Since you profess to be an expert on our CBA, please enlighten me as to how they could have downgraded. I'll be here waiting...

Me too. I love how arrogant blowholes spew out misinformation like they are experts.

All we need is General Lee and B19, then we'll have a trifecta of know-it-all's. :nuts:

 

[RJ Bum]

Good to hear some of us were making OT money there. I chose the 7/7 due to family needs and the IBB contract was a great raise. But for me, 2009 saw almost no overtime and only one after midnight. OT increased later in the year and it seemed like the guys who were not furloughed were going to do very well with OT in 2010.

Well I want to thank you and everyone else working OT for your support knowing that you are doing everything possible to cover the trips with min. crews while I'm on the street.

 

[RP170]

Well I want to thank you and everyone else working OT for your support knowing that you are doing everything possible to cover the trips with min. crews while I'm on the street.

Be nice if the "F" word was used every time guys were going to go over 12 hours of duty wouldn't it?

Check out the letter IPA wrote to the UPS pilots in the Cargo section of the boards here. That's how it should be done.

NJASAP won't risk the chance of the company claiming that they are proposing an "illegal job action" by telling people not to pick up OT, extended days, etc. Have unions really been stripped of all their power in this country?