Legacy mid air

[hawkerjock]

I heard this aircraft (Legacy) was being delivered to the USA for an american operator. Anyone know who it was being delivered for?

Brazilian jet missing after collision
Brazilian jet missing after collision
By MICHAEL ASTOR, Associated Press Writer 1 minute ago


A Brazilian jetliner with about 150 people aboard was reported missing Friday over the Amazon jungle after colliding with a smaller executive jet, aviation authorities said.
Wladamir Caze, spokesman for the Brazilian aviation authority, told The Associated Press that Gol airlines flight 1907 left the jungle city of Manaus and disappeared after a collision.
The Brazilian Aviation agency said the accident occurred in midair about 470 miles south of Manaus in the remote south western region of Para state.
News reports said the plane reportedly struck a Brazilian-made Legacy aircraft. The Legacy managed to land at the Caximbo base in southern Para, some 1,250 miles northwest of Rio, despite suffering damage.
Brazil's Defense Minister Waldir Pires told radio Bandnews there were "more than 150" people on the plane.
The jetliner had been scheduled to make a stop in Brasilia before heading to Rio's Antonio Tom Jobim International Airport. Manaus is a major river city in the heart of the Amazon rainforest some 1,700 miles northwest of Rio.
Brazilian airport authority President Jose Carlos Pereira said the air force was searching for the jet in a densely forested region. The Brazilian airforce said in a joint statement with the federal aviation and airport authorities that five planes had been sent to search for the missing aircraft. But it was not immediately clear whether searches had begun or would start at daylight.
Pereira said in an interview with CBN radio that a local farmer reported seeing a large plane flying low.
According to the Globo news agency, some 70 family members and friends of the victims had been moved to a warehouse owned by Gol at the Brasilia airport to await news.
The Embraer Legacy 600 is a Brazilian-made executive jet that carries up to 16 passengers.
The accident occurred in the same region where a Varig 737-200 crashed in 1989 with 54 people aboard with 46 survivors.
It was the first major incident for Gol Linhas Aereas Intelligentes SA, an upstart Brazilian airline that took to the skies in 2001 with just six Boeing 737s in 2001, serving seven Brazilian cities.
Gol has grown exponentially since then, dramatically boosting its fleet using the same model of plane to keep costs down while giving passengers cold box lunches and soft drinks instead of alcohol. The company is now Brazil's second largest airline after Tam Linhas Aereas SA, with more than 500 daily flights within Brazil, and to Argentina, Bolivia, Paraguay and Uruguay.
It rapidly gained market share by offering low-cost tickets, modeling its service after low-cost carriers in the United States and Europe. Gol, started by the heirs of a successful bus company, also benefited from the demise of Brazil's flagship airline Varig, which virtually disintegrated earlier this year under a mountain of debt.
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[Gumby]

I heard this aircraft (Legacy) was being delivered to the USA for an american operator. Anyone know who it was being delivered for?

Brazilian jet missing after collision
Brazilian jet missing after collision
By MICHAEL ASTOR, Associated Press Writer 1 minute ago


A Brazilian jetliner with about 150 people aboard was reported missing Friday over the Amazon jungle after colliding with a smaller executive jet, aviation authorities said.
Wladamir Caze, spokesman for the Brazilian aviation authority, told The Associated Press that Gol airlines flight 1907 left the jungle city of Manaus and disappeared after a collision.
The Brazilian Aviation agency said the accident occurred in midair about 470 miles south of Manaus in the remote south western region of Para state.
News reports said the plane reportedly struck a Brazilian-made Legacy aircraft. The Legacy managed to land at the Caximbo base in southern Para, some 1,250 miles northwest of Rio, despite suffering damage.
Brazil's Defense Minister Waldir Pires told radio Bandnews there were "more than 150" people on the plane.
The jetliner had been scheduled to make a stop in Brasilia before heading to Rio's Antonio Tom Jobim International Airport. Manaus is a major river city in the heart of the Amazon rainforest some 1,700 miles northwest of Rio.
Brazilian airport authority President Jose Carlos Pereira said the air force was searching for the jet in a densely forested region. The Brazilian airforce said in a joint statement with the federal aviation and airport authorities that five planes had been sent to search for the missing aircraft. But it was not immediately clear whether searches had begun or would start at daylight.
Pereira said in an interview with CBN radio that a local farmer reported seeing a large plane flying low.
According to the Globo news agency, some 70 family members and friends of the victims had been moved to a warehouse owned by Gol at the Brasilia airport to await news.
The Embraer Legacy 600 is a Brazilian-made executive jet that carries up to 16 passengers.
The accident occurred in the same region where a Varig 737-200 crashed in 1989 with 54 people aboard with 46 survivors.
It was the first major incident for Gol Linhas Aereas Intelligentes SA, an upstart Brazilian airline that took to the skies in 2001 with just six Boeing 737s in 2001, serving seven Brazilian cities.
Gol has grown exponentially since then, dramatically boosting its fleet using the same model of plane to keep costs down while giving passengers cold box lunches and soft drinks instead of alcohol. The company is now Brazil's second largest airline after Tam Linhas Aereas SA, with more than 500 daily flights within Brazil, and to Argentina, Bolivia, Paraguay and Uruguay.
It rapidly gained market share by offering low-cost tickets, modeling its service after low-cost carriers in the United States and Europe. Gol, started by the heirs of a successful bus company, also benefited from the demise of Brazil's flagship airline Varig, which virtually disintegrated earlier this year under a mountain of debt.
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They said it was going to Excelaire based in KISP....NY

 

[zbwmy]

Good article in NY Times

A reporter from the NY Times was onboard the Legacy. He said they hit at FL370. Does anyone know if there is radar coverage where this midair took place?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/03/b...60539200&en=05922913a46a97dc&ei=5070&emc=eta1

 

[Bobby Orr]

Unreal account...

 

[hawkerflyer]

Recent reports say the crew had their passports confiscated and were being investigated for criminal negligence and manslaughter. Brazilian Air Force is suggesting that an initial investigation shows the transponder on the Legacy was either purposely shut off or failed. Hope those guys get out.

 

[X man]

mid air

Apparently there is no radar coverage where the accident took place, and I believe the Legacy crew was given a clearence that required them to descend from FL370 to FL360 before the accident. I do not believe they were in a descent to FL360 or were maintaining that altitude . I am flying with a Ecuadorian pilot who is getting the information from the region and giving it to me in interpretation.

 

[Ritz Carlton]

You to have wonder if the TCAS was turned on, working, and offered a resolution advisory??? Let's see what the CVRs say.

 

[bombinha]

The entire Brasilian territory is radar coverage and VHF com.
Long time ago as 10 or more years ago were not. But that is past today is tottaly covered.
and better radars than US. As the radars there are new models and all computorized no round green scopes. They are computer terminals with keyboard. The airplanes don't flash, neither has any scan bar like you see on your WX radar.
The center Brasilia called the legacy crew for 3 times than was shift change for the controllers the new controler said the legacy was w/o the mode C on transponder and he tried to call them to confirm altitude witn no answer and asked him to keep trying. The new controller tried twice till he saw the image of the 737 freezes in his screen they never told anything to the 737 crew as per flight plan filled personally (in Brasil you cannot file a flight plan by phone)
they stated that after Brasilia due the Airway become 2 way they would change to FL360. From Sao Jose dos Campos to Brasilia the Airway was one way so they could pretty much get any FL but after that they should have changed and they didn't.

 

[starcheck208]

It's difficult to think something like this would happen with two newer airplanes that both should have tcas

 

[AA717driver]

bombinha--Thank you for the explanation. Most of us haven't flown down there. TC