Legacy Contract flying

[LR45JI]

How many Legacy guys know how to pump fuel from one wing tank to the other by pulling the right CBs? Not many.

Just curious: Is that a documented procedure?

 

[AbOvo]

What is it that makes the Legacy so much more slick than the ERJ? Are they a lot lighter when you take out the airline interior and replace it with the corporate seats?

Lack of wipers can't be that big of an advantage.

I've never flown either one, just curious.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

I'd like to point out to potential contract pilots that YOU are responsible for the income tax and social security tax out of your daily rate. If you are in the 28 percent income tax bracket, add 17% (I think, it used to be that) for SS (your share and the share an emplyer pays,) and that is 45% to the government. Makes your $300 day about $165 after taxes. You can massage that number a little with deductions, but its a good benchmark.

 

[LegacyDriver]

What is it that makes the Legacy so much more slick than the ERJ? Are they a lot lighter when you take out the airline interior and replace it with the corporate seats?

Lack of wipers can't be that big of an advantage.

I've never flown either one, just curious.

More thrust for one (compared to the LR) -- higher T:W ratio than all models--makes it run away from the RJ at identical weights. Also at identical fuel load we have more smash (I think our BOW might be higher but with 13 pax vs 50 we are a lot lighter at same fuel so...). I can't even remember the BOW on the ERJ...

She has a lot of aerodynamic improvements over the LR as well and they *do* make a difference.

Winglets, aileron/flap gap seals, wing root fairings, batt compartment inlet doors that close, belly tank fairing, slicker beacon fairing, bag door handle is flushed, better wheel fairings on the mains, no wipers, etc.. It has dozens of improvements and it makes a huge difference.

It takes 4 miles to slow an LR from 320 to 250 in a descent and 5 for the Legacy (something like that--I forget as I just do it by instinct now).

 

[jet2work]

You are correct sir!

The same thing can also be said of many of the fractional pilots. The day rates for the Citation X steadily went down when many of the FLOPS and NJ guys started free lancing. Its not just the Regional pilots who are guilty of this.

That is absolutely correct. Once again, the law of supply and demand. When you are competing with a pool of pilots that do not have to invest in their own training, and can out of domicile travel (or jumpseat), and have a schedule with fixed days off, it is going to be hard to command top wages in that particular a/c type.

As far as another poster mentioned about keeping the thing right side up etc.. Does anyone really hire contract pilots as the Captain? I will let them fly legs from the left seat if they are competent, but if it all goes to hell in a handbasket, it'd be my turn to fly (has never happened). I would think that even a low time (say 2000 hr) 121 FO would be pretty competent in handling the aircraft (even if clueless about all the other PIC responsibilities).

 

[LegacyDriver]

Just curious: Is that a documented procedure?

Nope. Neither is pulling a CB to reset a scrambled RMU or Pressurization Controller, but you do what you have to do sometimes to make the flight go out on time.

 

[LegacyDriver]

Does anyone really hire contract pilots as the Captain?

Yes. All the time. And they do it as cheaply as they can...

 

[amt]

Thanks fellows!
I'M NOT being fourlough by any regional airline nor is trying to lower the bar when it comes to charging a fair daily rate. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING publicly!
Thanks for the professional comments and I'm sorry for the ones with smart a$$ remarks.
Cheers

 

[Turtledriver]

Pull a CB to pass gas?

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[whymeworry?]

I got offered $80,000 as PIC on a Legacy in Asia recently. I laughed.

But then, I have a job. Probably not a bad gig for an unemployed furloughed Legacy driver.

There are just too many EMB pilots out there. I don't even both applying for those jobs any more. Only came across this one as a call from a dude that was quitting there.

As Bad-Andy said, my how times have changed.

 

[LegacyDriver]

I got offered $80,000 as PIC on a Legacy in Asia recently. I laughed.

But then, I have a job. Probably not a bad gig for an unemployed furloughed Legacy driver.

There are just too many EMB pilots out there. I don't even both applying for those jobs any more. Only came across this one as a call from a dude that was quitting there.

As Bad-Andy said, my how times have changed.

Same here. India. China. Russia. Dubai. All the same.

I don't even bother trying to get the jobs any more, either. The pay that is being offered is nowhere near the ballpark and it gets worse all the time. It's not worth the hassle. When they ask what I want I say $120K to start. When they are finished laughing I wish them a nice day and go back to reading on the couch. They don't call back.

I agree with Andy, too. My how times have changed.

 

[rumrnr78]

Same here. India. China. Russia. Dubai. All the same.

I don't even bother trying to get the jobs any more, either. The pay that is being offered is nowhere near the ballpark and it gets worse all the time. It's not worth the hassle. When they ask what I want I say $120K to start. When they are finished laughing I wish them a nice day and go back to reading on the couch. They don't call back.

I agree with Andy, too. My how times have changed.

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeey! Your worth 120k plus! Free up some room in your mailbox so I can PM you!

Cheers-

 

[LegacyDriver]

Try it now. Heeeyyyyyyyyy!!!!!

"Join the team. Get on board and come in for the big win!"

"Reach up for the sunrise!!!!"

Heeeyyyyyy!!!!!