LegacyDriver
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Valid points.
What s/n did you fly? The later models (885 and up) are the same noise level as just about anything else (Falcon, Cessna, Hawker, etc.), at least in back. The 650 took it further in noise reduction and apparently all new 600s will have the same configuration.
If you had wipers no wonder it was loud. Only the old P models had them as standard. They dumped those with 642 on and added blankets with each config change.
Haven't flown one with the cockpit VGs or the new 650 equivalent cockpit insulation, but I am told they are much better. The gang in Brazil finally realized that noise and 390 were hurting them and changed things up, particularly noise levels.
Your other points are valid except for ramp presence which I find ridiculous (not directed at you, just the notion that a Legacy doesn't look good on the ramp--it does). The 650 improves on all your complaint areas significantly (except ceiling--still 410) and is what the Legacy should have been from day one, but EMB likes to make their own mistakes and learn their own lessons.
End of day for what you lay out to acquire one you get a lot for your money. Owners like them. Pax like them. Crews like them. Overall a good jet and improving as they go.
Bottom line is, contrary to the desires of the haters, it has been a huge success and launched an entire business division for EMB in a down market. Quite a feat.
Cheerio.
What s/n did you fly? The later models (885 and up) are the same noise level as just about anything else (Falcon, Cessna, Hawker, etc.), at least in back. The 650 took it further in noise reduction and apparently all new 600s will have the same configuration.
If you had wipers no wonder it was loud. Only the old P models had them as standard. They dumped those with 642 on and added blankets with each config change.
Haven't flown one with the cockpit VGs or the new 650 equivalent cockpit insulation, but I am told they are much better. The gang in Brazil finally realized that noise and 390 were hurting them and changed things up, particularly noise levels.
Your other points are valid except for ramp presence which I find ridiculous (not directed at you, just the notion that a Legacy doesn't look good on the ramp--it does). The 650 improves on all your complaint areas significantly (except ceiling--still 410) and is what the Legacy should have been from day one, but EMB likes to make their own mistakes and learn their own lessons.
End of day for what you lay out to acquire one you get a lot for your money. Owners like them. Pax like them. Crews like them. Overall a good jet and improving as they go.
Bottom line is, contrary to the desires of the haters, it has been a huge success and launched an entire business division for EMB in a down market. Quite a feat.
Cheerio.
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