Learjet 45 crashes in Telluride

[avbug]

Hardly.

You're a good pilot because you elected not to. You're not afraid of Telluride, however, and you didn't call for it's closure.

Pilots who are afraid to go there and believe it's a dangerous place=not good pilots.

Get your story straight.

 

[Tristar]

But Clay Lacy would have made it in.

 

[Flying Biker]

So by some comments I am not a good pilot because I could not fly in and out of TEX today.

So why would you say that Bailey? Colorado can be a very challenging state to fly in. The winds here can be very unpredictable because of the mountains. I think you used good judgment going to another airport instead of forcing it in. This is not a TEX issue, that is just Colorado this time of year. They are calling for 40mph winds today on the front range.

 

[bailey3083]

So why would you say that Bailey? Colorado can be a very challenging state to fly in. The winds here can be very unpredictable because of the mountains. I think you used good judgment going to another airport instead of forcing it in. This is not a TEX issue, that is just Colorado this time of year. They are calling for 40mph winds today on the front range.

Forgot how quickly beer effects you at high altitudes lol.
Went by TEX today and the FBO said a PC 12 tried to forced the landing yesterday with winds 150 at 27 gusting to 44 and everyone on board is lucky that they are alive.
Far as flying in the Rockies, I know just how dangerous it can be and always have a plan B and C ready. For me the 2 most challenging areas to fly are the Rockies and the Northeast.

 

[DBacks]

Allright guys, let's get back on topic. This should help:
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NTSB Identification: CEN09LA116
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Saturday, January 03, 2009 in Telluride, CO
Aircraft: Learjet 45XR, registration: N279AJ
Injuries: 1 Minor, 1 Uninjured.This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed.
On January 3, 2009 at 1710 mountain standard time (MST) a Learjet 45, N279AJ, sustained substantial damage when attempting to land during a snowstorm at Telluride Regional Airport (KTEX), Telluride, CO. The airplane was owned by LJ279, LLC, Missoula, MT and operated by Aero Jet Services, Scottsdale, AZ. The CFR 49 Part 91 positioning flight was conducted using instrument flight rules and had departed Scottsdale Airport (KSDL), Scottsdale, AZ at 1503 MST. The pilot occupying the left seat was not injured and the pilot occupying the right seat received minor injuries. Both pilots were able to exit the airplane unassisted.

In a statement provided by the Pilot-In-Command (PIC), upon arrival to KTEX the weather was reported to be below minimums; the crew elected to hold over the Cones VOR and wait to see if weather conditions would improve. The crew was given instructions, by air traffic control, to hold as published and to expect further clearance (EFC) at 1630. When the weather improved to a visibility of 4 miles and a ceiling of 2300 feet, the PIC requested a descent and approach to KTEX. At approximately 4 miles from the airport, the pilot acquired the airport environment but was not in position to land, so he called for a missed approach back to Cones VOR. The pilot then requested a second attempt to land stating that "if we did not land, we would like to be sequenced to into KMTJ" Montrose Regional Airport Montrose, CO, their alternate airport. On the second approach, both crew members stated that they had acquired the runway environment; however, they were still too high for a visual approach. The crew elected to do a 360-degree, right, descending turn, in order to get in a better position for landing. On completion of the turn, they again affirmed the runway environment and that they were aligned with the extended centerline of the runway. The airplane touched down and after full thrust reversers were deployed, the nose gear collapsed. The airplane began to slide in snow and came to a stop about mid-field, in an upright position.

An on-scene investigation was conducted by a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) inspector. The initial examination of the area indicated that the airplane had touched down about 20-feet to the right, of the runway. Additionally, the airplane's wings were torn from the fuselage and the tail section had separated just aft of the engines, during the contact with the ground.

After the on-site examination, the airplane was recovered to a secure location for further investigation.

The cockpit voice and flight data recorders were sent to the NTSB laboratory for download and analysis.


Weather reported at KTEX 10 minutes prior to the accident was winds 260 degrees at 8 knots, visibility of 3 miles, scattered clouds at 400 feet, broken clouds at 2300 feet, temperature of 6 degrees Celsius, dew point of 6 degrees Celsius, and altimeter setting 29.85 inches of mercury. Index for Jan2009 | Index of months

 

[avbug]

But Clay Lacy would have made it in.

If you say so.

 

[Tristar]

If you say so.

That would be sarcasm - I kind of thought you might not get it, since you couldn't even get the words right in my previous posts.

To explain: I was making fun of your insistence that he is such an outstanding pilot, pillar of the aviation community, successful businessman, ect. ad nauseum. I'll try and remember to post parenthetical explanations for you benefit in the future.

 

[avbug]

your insistence that he is such an outstanding pilot, pillar of the aviation community, successful businessman, ect. ad nauseum.

I said no such thing. Again, your comprehension lacks.

 

[TimsKeeper]

...

You two have invaluable CRM that can usually only be learned at Flight Safety!

Thank you

 

[DA50pilot]

But Clay Lacy would have made it in.

Hey.... Isn't Clay Lacy a Scab?