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[waterskier]

Friend at XJ called me last week and said that JA was talking to XJ mgmt... and they were working the deal...

Branded flying closed...
Delta contract (LAX) to Skywest
XJ would focus solely on what they built their co on... CAL flying...
Bad news is means lots of furlows (sp?)... but most get to keep their jobs, and the co. lives on...

Have not head anything in that last week or so... anyone know anything?

 

[kj6991]

Friend at XJ called me last week and said that JA was talking to XJ mgmt... and they were working the deal...

Branded flying closed...
Delta contract (LAX) to Skywest
XJ would focus solely on what they built their co on... CAL flying...
Bad news is means lots of furlows (sp?)... but most get to keep their jobs, and the co. lives on...

Have not head anything in that last week or so... anyone know anything?

Where have you been lately? Sell your house on Jupiter and come back and join us all on earth

 

[I_Love_Lamp]

XE is ExpressJet. XJ is Mesaba. Let's stop scaring the Mesaba people now

 

[flyinhigh6165]

SP Furlough

 

[Nevets]

You forgot the part about CAL being able to put the XJT flying up for bid in 12 months. And the part about SKW giving preferential interviews to the furloughed XJT guys.

 

[BigKahuna]

or that none of the above applies anymore!!!!

 

[shinydiscoballs]

who wants to work for a scab airline like skyworst after workin for an awesome airline like xjt.
those guys at skyworst are brain washed thinkin they have it real good but in reality it is just another crap hole like mesa.

 

[Skaff]

who wants to work for a scab airline like skyworst after workin for an awesome airline like xjt.
those guys at skyworst are brain washed thinkin they have it real good but in reality it is just another crap hole like mesa.

Wow. We don't have it good? I work for a company that has not furloughed a single pilot in over 35 years. That's not kool-aid, that's fact. Can you say the same? Now that doesn't mean it will never happen, but we have a good track record for making good business decisions and keeping people employed. How 'bout you?

 

[Nevets]

Wow. We don't have it good? I work for a company that has not furloughed a single pilot in over 35 years. That's not kool-aid, that's fact. Can you say the same? Now that doesn't mean it will never happen, but we have a good track record for making good business decisions and keeping people employed. How 'bout you?

Too bad the same cannot be said of the pilots it fires instead.

Also, the deal SKW had for XJT, they would have furloughed over 700 pilots immediately while at the same time taking 29 of XJT's aircraft and give the furloughees preferential interviews at SKW.

 

[waterskier]

Furloughing 700 guys is better than closing the doors and putting everyone on the street... but I guess you guys have already made your decision... Hope it works out for you guys, but not looking good..

 

[Nevets]

Furloughing 700 guys is better than closing the doors and putting everyone on the street... but I guess you guys have already made your decision... Hope it works out for you guys, but not looking good..

Not when SKW can bid on the remainder of the flying that XJT does for CAL only 12 months later and in essence "closing the doors and putting everyone on the street." Oh wait, not on the street since SKW will offer preferential interviews to the furloughed XJT pilots.

 

[Skaff]

Too bad the same cannot be said of the pilots it fires instead.

Also, the deal SKW had for XJT, they would have furloughed over 700 pilots immediately while at the same time taking 29 of XJT's aircraft and give the furloughees preferential interviews at SKW.

Like I said, Skywest is in business and makes good business decisions. Yeah, it really sucks that xjt's management screwed things over so bad that furloughs or a loss of flying might happen. But that's not Skywest managements fault and it's not the pilots fault. It's xjt's fault.

 

[Nevets]

Like I said, Skywest is in business and makes good business decisions. Yeah, it really sucks that xjt's management screwed things over so bad that furloughs or a loss of flying might happen. But that's not Skywest managements fault and it's not the pilots fault. It's xjt's fault.

Yes, but that doesn't invalidate anything else I have said. I was just making the point that if this deal goes through the 35 year history you talk about would have been out the door. I was just giving you a hard time.

 

[txpilot1974]

who wants to work for a scab airline like skyworst after workin for an awesome airline like xjt.
those guys at skyworst are brain washed thinkin they have it real good but in reality it is just another crap hole like mesa.

That has to be the most retarded thing I have ever read on flight info....and thats saying a lot!! It looks like it was written by an 8 year old. If you are going to bash someone at least learn how to spell first. You are making Metro752 look intelligent!!

 

[bmpilot2003]

Yes, but that doesn't invalidate anything else I have said. I was just making the point that if this deal goes through the 35 year history you talk about would have been out the door. I was just giving you a hard time.

If the deal doesn't go through is xjet still going to have to furlough?

 

[Nevets]

If the deal doesn't go through is xjet still going to have to furlough?

Probably...especially if Branded is shut down.

 

[Chairman]

bet you can't even define the S word!

who wants to work for a scab airline like skyworst after workin for an awesome airline like xjt.
those guys at skyworst are brain washed thinkin they have it real good but in reality it is just another crap hole like mesa.

 

[bmpilot2003]

Probably...especially if Branded is shut down.

What would keep the branded afloat besides fuel prices going down?

 

[Nevets]

What would keep the branded afloat besides fuel prices going down?

I think the only thing keeping the Branded flying from being successful is the fuel prices even though XJT is some hedges.

 

[hey]

[sarcasm] I wish I could get on the "I'm-at-skywest-nothing-bad-will-happen-to-me-here" bandwagon. [/sarcasm]

 

[vtech]

Also, the deal SKW had for XJT, they would have furloughed over 700 pilots immediately while at the same time taking 29 of XJT's aircraft and give the furloughees preferential interviews at SKW.

Have you ever considered that SKYW has access to 29 ERJ's that don't belong to XJT?

Have you ever considered that SKYW will begin flying for Continental under a CPA with Continental without regard to whether or not SKYW closes a deal with XJT?

Have you ever considered why SKYW is moving forward very quickly to establish a training program for the EMB 145?

If you haven't condiered these three things, you're leaving some important things out of the equation.

As a recent advertising campaign points out, "Life comes at you fast." Are you ready?

 

[Skaff]

Yes, but that doesn't invalidate anything else I have said. I was just making the point that if this deal goes through the 35 year history you talk about would have been out the door. I was just giving you a hard time.

No it wouldn't. SkyWest Airlines is a product of SkyWest Inc. ASA is also a product of SkyWest Inc. If things go down as it has been discussed, SkyWest Airlines will have never furloughed a pilot due to the wise business decisions of SkyWest Airlines management. Xjet may furlough, but it will ultimately be due to the poor business decisions of Xjet management. Those decisions may be made by SkyWest Inc., but Inc. may make those decisions only because Xjet management is too stupid to do it. They would rather dig their own graves than admit they made poor business decisions.

 

[SmitteyB]

There is no sense in trying to talk to some of the XJTers.

Unless you're praising them and their management they think you're scum.

SkyWest- you should have voted in ALPA, though. Bad choice on your behalf.

 

[Skaff]

It seems that xjt pilots are all pissed at Skywest and not their own management. With or without Skywest, the writing is on the wall for xjt. That is all due to xjt management, and not to any outside entity.

 

[pianoman]

Well, more due to CAL, but hey whatever floats your boat.

CAL is determined to yank that flying no matter what price XJT slides across the table.

I don't think many of the XJT folks would protest if shutting down branded kept the company healthy as long as CAL gave them a fair shake.

Surprisingly high oil killed a business plan that was about 50/50 anyway.

 

[waterski45]

It seems that xjt pilots are all pissed at Skywest and not their own management. With or without Skywest, the writing is on the wall for xjt. That is all due to xjt management, and not to any outside entity.

Please don't bring logic into this discussion.

It's easy to blame it on SkyWest pilots, because hating them is the popular thing to do.

 

[ksna]

nevermind

 

[Poahi]

Have you ever considered that SKYW has access to 29 ERJ's that don't belong to XJT?

Have you ever considered that SKYW will begin flying for Continental under a CPA with Continental without regard to whether or not SKYW closes a deal with XJT?

Have you ever considered why SKYW is moving forward very quickly to establish a training program for the EMB 145?

If you haven't condiered these three things, you're leaving some important things out of the equation.

As a recent advertising campaign points out, "Life comes at you fast." Are you ready?

Then why in the world does Skywest want XJT? Am I the only one baffled by this?

 

[Fishpaw]

Then why in the world does Skywest want XJT? Am I the only one baffled by this?

Something I've wondered as well. What's the rush to buy us? Why not pick up the parts of us they want in bankruptcy?

 

[Superpilot92]

Something I've wondered as well. What's the rush to buy us? Why not pick up the parts of us they want in bankruptcy?

Continental cant afford to let XJT go into bankruptcy. That would cripple CAL's domestic feed and no other regional can replace that flying in the event of XJT going TU. I think CAL wants XJT bought so they wont have to.