Latest NJA upgrade time

[CA1900]

I'd say that when one improves the other will too.

I Concur.

:laugh:

 

[CALRepublic]

The latest upgrade award the most Jr award went to someone who has been here 3yrs 1mo and was awarded the BE400. Take it for what its worth, and good luck to all who are trying to get hired here.

How is that possible??? I've been here 3 years, 1 month. This person you are talking about probably was in my basic indoc class, and I'm still 20 numbers away.

Are you sure about his date of hire??? I'm not trying to discredit you, maybe you heard wrong....

 

[gunfyter]

Junior upgrade @ about # 1850 out of 2800 pilots means
66% Captains.

There will have to be 4200 pilots on the property before # 2800 is in top 66% and upgrades... 1400 more than now.

Thats about a 50% increase in the size of the pilot force, the US fleet, and 50% growth of the company from today.

 

[brokeflyer]

Junior upgrade @ about # 1850 out of 2800 pilots means
66% Captains.

There will have to be 4200 pilots on the property before # 2800 is in top 66% and upgrades... 1400 more than now.

Thats about a 50% increase in the size of the pilot force, the US fleet, and 50% growth of the company from today.

yup......7 years at least.

 

[RP170]

Junior upgrade @ about # 1850 out of 2800 pilots means
66% Captains.

There will have to be 4200 pilots on the property before # 2800 is in top 66% and upgrades... 1400 more than now.

Thats about a 50% increase in the size of the pilot force, the US fleet, and 50% growth of the company from today.

Based on those #'s it looks like 4 years at the very least. I figured at least 5 years when I was hired here last October.

 

[gunfyter]

yup......7 years at least.

You could be right... but don't forget attrition... I think 2 or 3 %

 

[brokeflyer]

yes but you need to factor in the guys that are upgrading now may be switchin fleets for better schedule, etc in 3 yrs from now. And so on.....

 

[Diesel]

Wolf
crying and longing for the smell of a GV :bawling:

Stop bitching the IV smells just fine, like stale farts and frayed wires.

 

[av8tor4239]

3 years, 5 years.. 7 years.. IT IS ALL A BUNCH OF CRAP.

You can not predict upgrade... It is a waste of time. There are too many variables. Economy, strength of the company, accidents, terrorist, attrition, hiring, etc. etc. etc..

I can remember when I was at the regional and I was hired in 2002, they told me when I was hired 18 months to upgrade to captain, then in indoc, 18 months to upgrade to captain, then on my first recurrent, 18 months to upgrade, then on my second recurrent 18 months to upgrade, then..... 4.5 years later I upgrade.. then quit 3 months after upgrade to come here... LOL

 

[captain dad]

I know one thing for sure. It is going to be several years no matter what. Even if they hired like crazy we can only process about 350 - 400 pilots a year through out the training system and FSI. Add the attrition of around 80 to 100 and you get a net gain of only 300 additional seniority numbers per year.

So 2/3 are captains, that means we will need 4600 + pilots on before number 2800 is upgraded. But by that time(say four years from now) today's number 2800 will actually be 2400 due to attrition so we will actually only need 4000 pilots total before he or she upgrades. That means 1200 pilots which equals about 3 - 4 years minimum. Of course this changes daily and has many seen and unforeseen variables like A/C deliveries, A/C sales, A/C retirements, etc... and you can estimate until you are blue in the face.

In the end don't work for a company based on upgrade time. If you are so worried about upgrade go work for the regionals. I hear they are still hiring street captains.

I work here because it is a great company and they treat us right. The upgrade will come when it comes. Until then, life is good.