Latest ABX 767 Freighter

[AV8OR]

Dang. Same here. I was gettin all jazzed about doin Deer Valley on my 61hr layover.

Oh well.

 

[hvydriver]

I was gonna try to find Marie Osmond. Always had a thing for her. Especially when she and Donny sang "She's a little bit country".

 

[LarryinTN]

Somebody is making decisions without any regard for how they will be implimented and SLC certainly isn't the first example.

We heard this afternoon that we're getting SLC back. So far I've only heard it through the rumor mill but you schedule change seems to support it.

What I don't understand is why 767s are flying relatively short trips while 727s and DC8 are flying longer trips. It would seem to make sense to put the most efficient airplane on the longer trips and keep the less efficient ones on the shorter trips. That's what they did when they phased in the 767.

BTW, what does a DC8-73 burn an hour? Are all of yours -73s or are there some 71s and 72s in the fleet?

Ours are all 63s and 61LD's (61's with the 63's long duct engines). We had 62s but they've all been retired. IIRC, they burned in the 12,000#-14,000#/hr range.

 

[hvydriver]

LJ,

DC8-73's burn about 11k per hour average on a 8 hour run, and carry 100k in payload. What does ya'lls 767 do? I don't have a clue.

 

[LarryinTN]

The 767 guys say that it burns about 10,000 lbs/hr. I don't know the payload but it's more than what our DC8s can carry. I'll see if I can find out.

 

[ABXbooger]

Not a 767 guy, but I found this info...

MTOW 767-200= 395,000
Empty weight ~180,000
Fuel ~24,000 gals.


with a fuel burn of around 10K an hour, flight of 9 hours (europe) gives a max payload of 125K or so, just an educated guess.?

 

[hvydriver]

Booger,

It depends. Is your 767-200 an ER version or not? It's a big difference. The 395k MTOW you're using is for the ER version.

 

[abxaviator]

MTOW on our 76's is 310,000 or 315,000 for the increased weight models. I don't have the numbers for the BOW's.

 

[hvydriver]

Aviator,


I'm not up on BOW's for 767's, but 180 sounds a tad high. Even so, I'm guessing 50k in cargo capacity available on an oceanic run, after fuel would be in the ballpark. The 8's can carry 100k. ER's would be a different story.

 

[abexpilot]

At least for ABX, past problems with the DC-8's, have been more of a "bulk out" limitation rather than problems with absolute weight. Hopefully, the next batch of "large aircraft" that have been so hotly rumored lately will have "ER" capabilities and would make the weight v. volume issue mute.