Latest ABX 767 Freighter

[steamgauge]

Steamgauge,
That's cool. Congratulations. But what's your point?

Why does your reply drip with sarcasm?

I think you know what the point is, things are changing-for both
sides.

Nope. You got it wrong. Not sarcasm; frustration.

We know we work for the Germans (we used to have a German flag in front of the DHL CVG hub), we can all read an ABX Air 10K so we know that you're getting more 767s (we also know those are VERY expensive doors), and we all know things are changing (especially if FedEx and DHL get their open skies).

I was just wondering about what I considered an oddly phrased post that hinted at something but didn't deliver any new info. For example, was the Brussels part significant? I didn't know that your 767s could operate ILN to Brussels with a significant payload. Perhaps, I'm wrong. Tell me.

You see, there was probably more information in my first paragraph than that whole post. That's why I come here: for the information. PR stuff I can get anywhere. You got something to say, lay it out.

Not a flame. Just being honest.

 

[LarryinTN]

I haven't heard anything about BRU other than what was posted here.

The 767 is the most efficient aircraft in either fleet so it would make sense for it to fly the longer trips while the less efficient airplanes fly shorter trips. Don't know about it's range/payload capabilities. They fly easily to the West Coast without any fuel in their center tanks so they certainly can go farther.

I heard that the DC8-70 in SLC only last one day and the 767 is back in. Anyone hear anything else about that?

 

[hvydriver]

I haven't heard anything about that. I've got the SLC weekends on an xline, and they are still there. You'd think if the Germans were so smart, they'd do the consolidation on a weekend sort, as was done when we moved to the "New forever" hub on the other side of the field here in CVG. It'd save all of us riding back and forth in a van to do a run here and there. See you guys in ILN!

 

[ultrarunner]

Brussels - ILN is planned to have a fed on board and will be a proving flight.

Isn't there already operating authority for the 76??? If, why proving flight?

 

[LarryinTN]

I haven't heard anything about that. I've got the SLC weekends on an xline, and they are still there.

Well, checking www.flightview.com, the ILN-SLC flight this morning (Wed) was a 767, not the DC8. Yesterday the SLC-BOI DC9, which carries freight that comes in from ILN on the bigger airplane, was 2-1/2 hours late because of them having to transfer the BOI freight from A's to C's. They apparently took a couple of hours transfering a lot of the SLC area freight from A's to C's before loading into trucks.

That's about all I know.

 

[hvydriver]

Well, I don't know what to tell ya about that, LJ-ABX. I guess we're too stealthy to be listed on that site. It is cool. All I know is that our guys were (are) flying it. The way the Germans are acting, might be doing it tomorrow, might not. Who knows but the Shadow? But, I feel your pain on the time it takes to transfer freight from A's to C's and back again. We go through it too. It harkens back to my original thought about the fact that if the Germans are sooo smart, why are they going about integrating the two networks in such a shoddy manner? Fly safe!

 

[abxaviator]

Possibly yesterdays equipment substitution had something to do with the Cat II conditions at ILN and CVG? Evidently all or most of ASTAR's flights couldn't get into CVG Wed. morning; we had several reroutes through CVG to pick up the freight last night.

 

[hvydriver]

abxaviator,

The Cat II conditions could explain it. It's funny. We've proposed for years to DHL that we should go Cat II or III, and they never wanted to do it. Now all of a sudden, it's "We need you to go Cat II as fast as possible." LOL.

 

[LarryinTN]

Yep, it was the Cat II weather. The SAT mechanics had talked to the SLC mechanics and that's what they said. The SLC mechanics said that the ground folks are having fits with the A's to C's to A's.

You can pull up Astar flights on www.flightview.com just fine. Use "ER" for the airline code (ours is GB). i.e. ER462 is the ILN-SLC flight and it shows that it landed at 7:40am this morning.

You can also go to the "More options" page and just put in the departure and destination cities. That's how I found the Astar flight who's flight number I did not know.

Looks like they are having problems with the A's to C's again. Our SLC-BOI DC9 still isn't off the ground and it should already be in BOI.

 

[hvydriver]

LJ,

You got it right the first time. I just pulled up my schedule, and they have put me on AVL for my SLC weekends. It would appear you got them back. It makes sense if you have a feeder -9 coming in from BOI, for time savings alone. I just wonder sometimes who is in charge of the "Big Picture" for route structures. My dog could make better decisions. LOL

 

[AV8OR]

Dang. Same here. I was gettin all jazzed about doin Deer Valley on my 61hr layover.

Oh well.

 

[hvydriver]

I was gonna try to find Marie Osmond. Always had a thing for her. Especially when she and Donny sang "She's a little bit country".

 

[LarryinTN]

Somebody is making decisions without any regard for how they will be implimented and SLC certainly isn't the first example.

We heard this afternoon that we're getting SLC back. So far I've only heard it through the rumor mill but you schedule change seems to support it.

What I don't understand is why 767s are flying relatively short trips while 727s and DC8 are flying longer trips. It would seem to make sense to put the most efficient airplane on the longer trips and keep the less efficient ones on the shorter trips. That's what they did when they phased in the 767.

BTW, what does a DC8-73 burn an hour? Are all of yours -73s or are there some 71s and 72s in the fleet?

Ours are all 63s and 61LD's (61's with the 63's long duct engines). We had 62s but they've all been retired. IIRC, they burned in the 12,000#-14,000#/hr range.

 

[hvydriver]

LJ,

DC8-73's burn about 11k per hour average on a 8 hour run, and carry 100k in payload. What does ya'lls 767 do? I don't have a clue.

 

[LarryinTN]

The 767 guys say that it burns about 10,000 lbs/hr. I don't know the payload but it's more than what our DC8s can carry. I'll see if I can find out.