Latest ABX 767 Freighter

[findtech]

Does the new door equipped aircraft have rollers? If so, will it still be possible to use C containers in it?

 

[LarryinTN]

The A-Container aircraft, both 767 and DC8, are conventional freighters in every way. They have cookie sheets that slide in and can convert any A-container aircraft to hold Cs.

 

[AV8OR]

Hey AV8OR, Ever hear the one about stones and glass houses?

"It is a amazing." ?

Yes I have. You seem to be offended about something I wrote, and I must say I am clueless. I even went back and read my posts to see if anything could have been seen as offensive, sooo, just what the heck is this all about. What are you referencing? Do you not think it is amazing that a 4 engine jet burns less gas than a 3 engine jet? Dude I really don't know what you meant by that post.

Enlighten me. Please.

 

[Brett Hull]

"sure makes since"....What the? I are a collej grad. ...since=sense

It's the engines...the DC-8-73's burn less than a 727. It is a amazing.

In the post where you chided someone because of their spelling deficiency, you made a grammatical error. It should be "It is amazing" (leave out the extra "a").

 

[AV8OR]

Well, thank you Brett. And I really do mean that, cause I was clueless.

If that is indeed the issue here, then I must say that is the funniest dang thing I've seen in a while. Why? Cause if ya look at who I quoted and who I was "chiding", uh, that would be myself. I had re-read my previous post and noticed that I had spelled "sense", "since". (See post #7, first sentence.) But, I guess if someone wants to take issue with me chiding myself for my own mistake, I guess that's OK. I guess I should be equally appreciative and offended all at the same time. LOL.

By the way, the extra "a" wasn't a misspelling, I just got a little "jiggy" with my "A" key.

 

[abxaviator]

Well, don't I seem silly! Yes, that was the point, but I completely missed that you were chiding yourself; one of my many mistakes, sorry.

 

[LarryinTN]

the funniest dang thing I've seen in a while. Why? Cause if ya look at who I quoted and who I was "chiding", uh, that would be myself.

That is pretty funny...

 

[AV8OR]

Hey man. No harm done. It's all good! Hopefully for all of us.

Greasy side down!

 

[Rhoid]

Doesn't Astar currently operate JFK-BRU or somewhere in the states to DHL's european hub? I think what the ABX guy was getting at is that ABX is doing proving runs on the BRU-ILN route to take over this flying from Astar.

 

[AV8OR]

Yes AStar operates multiple JFK-BRU-BAH and back flights. I wouldn't begin to presume what he meant, but since scope is for all purposes a dead issue, it really doesn't matter what anybody means, DHL is going to do whatever they dang well please.

In a bigger, but related issue....

DHL backs rival Fedex in call to remove air cargo curbs

February 7, 2005 8:35am
Europe Intelligence Wire


EXPRESS giant DHL has added its weight to a call by US rival Fedex for the removal of all market restrictions on cargo airline ownership on the trans-Atlantic freight trade.

The carrier, part of the Deutsche Port World Net group, would be happy to compete in an unrestricted market on both sides of the pond, top management told Lloyd's List.

'We are on nearly the same line [as Fedex],' said Monika Wulf-Mathies, Germany-based managing director for policy and sustainability. 'We are in favour of a full liberalisation of air cargo between the US and the EU. And a solution for cargo could pave the way for a bilateral agreement for passengers.'

Fedex shook up the international express market last month with a call for cargo airlines on each side of the Atlantic to be allowed to wholly own airlines in opposing territory. Present legislation restricts ownership to a minority shareholding.

Lifting restrictions would improve coverage for both market leaders, which rely on a system of bilateral agreements, subsidiaries and partnerships to guarantee door-to-door coverage worldwide.

Today's rules are more favourable to Fedex than DHL, said Ms Wulf-Mathies. European companies are restricted to 25% control of companies in the US, she said, while US companies can own up to 49% of European rivals.

Bilateral agreements give Fedex 'something near to cabotage' in Europe, said Ms Wulf-Mathies.

European cargo carriers are said to have been the victim of 'protectionist tendencies' in the US, particularly since the emergence of new security concerns.

The European Commission is understood to be looking at the possibility of a trans-Atlantic cargo agreement, which could foreshadow a full open skies passenger agreement between the two trading blocs. Such an agreement is thought to be technically feasible given the small number four of big international players in the express cargo market.
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=47765&goto=newpost

 

[steamgauge]

Steamgauge,
That's cool. Congratulations. But what's your point?

Why does your reply drip with sarcasm?

I think you know what the point is, things are changing-for both
sides.

Nope. You got it wrong. Not sarcasm; frustration.

We know we work for the Germans (we used to have a German flag in front of the DHL CVG hub), we can all read an ABX Air 10K so we know that you're getting more 767s (we also know those are VERY expensive doors), and we all know things are changing (especially if FedEx and DHL get their open skies).

I was just wondering about what I considered an oddly phrased post that hinted at something but didn't deliver any new info. For example, was the Brussels part significant? I didn't know that your 767s could operate ILN to Brussels with a significant payload. Perhaps, I'm wrong. Tell me.

You see, there was probably more information in my first paragraph than that whole post. That's why I come here: for the information. PR stuff I can get anywhere. You got something to say, lay it out.

Not a flame. Just being honest.

 

[LarryinTN]

I haven't heard anything about BRU other than what was posted here.

The 767 is the most efficient aircraft in either fleet so it would make sense for it to fly the longer trips while the less efficient airplanes fly shorter trips. Don't know about it's range/payload capabilities. They fly easily to the West Coast without any fuel in their center tanks so they certainly can go farther.

I heard that the DC8-70 in SLC only last one day and the 767 is back in. Anyone hear anything else about that?

 

[hvydriver]

I haven't heard anything about that. I've got the SLC weekends on an xline, and they are still there. You'd think if the Germans were so smart, they'd do the consolidation on a weekend sort, as was done when we moved to the "New forever" hub on the other side of the field here in CVG. It'd save all of us riding back and forth in a van to do a run here and there. See you guys in ILN!

 

[ultrarunner]

Brussels - ILN is planned to have a fed on board and will be a proving flight.

Isn't there already operating authority for the 76??? If, why proving flight?

 

[LarryinTN]

I haven't heard anything about that. I've got the SLC weekends on an xline, and they are still there.

Well, checking www.flightview.com, the ILN-SLC flight this morning (Wed) was a 767, not the DC8. Yesterday the SLC-BOI DC9, which carries freight that comes in from ILN on the bigger airplane, was 2-1/2 hours late because of them having to transfer the BOI freight from A's to C's. They apparently took a couple of hours transfering a lot of the SLC area freight from A's to C's before loading into trucks.

That's about all I know.

 

[hvydriver]

Well, I don't know what to tell ya about that, LJ-ABX. I guess we're too stealthy to be listed on that site. It is cool. All I know is that our guys were (are) flying it. The way the Germans are acting, might be doing it tomorrow, might not. Who knows but the Shadow? But, I feel your pain on the time it takes to transfer freight from A's to C's and back again. We go through it too. It harkens back to my original thought about the fact that if the Germans are sooo smart, why are they going about integrating the two networks in such a shoddy manner? Fly safe!

 

[abxaviator]

Possibly yesterdays equipment substitution had something to do with the Cat II conditions at ILN and CVG? Evidently all or most of ASTAR's flights couldn't get into CVG Wed. morning; we had several reroutes through CVG to pick up the freight last night.

 

[hvydriver]

abxaviator,

The Cat II conditions could explain it. It's funny. We've proposed for years to DHL that we should go Cat II or III, and they never wanted to do it. Now all of a sudden, it's "We need you to go Cat II as fast as possible." LOL.

 

[LarryinTN]

Yep, it was the Cat II weather. The SAT mechanics had talked to the SLC mechanics and that's what they said. The SLC mechanics said that the ground folks are having fits with the A's to C's to A's.

You can pull up Astar flights on www.flightview.com just fine. Use "ER" for the airline code (ours is GB). i.e. ER462 is the ILN-SLC flight and it shows that it landed at 7:40am this morning.

You can also go to the "More options" page and just put in the departure and destination cities. That's how I found the Astar flight who's flight number I did not know.

Looks like they are having problems with the A's to C's again. Our SLC-BOI DC9 still isn't off the ground and it should already be in BOI.

 

[hvydriver]

LJ,

You got it right the first time. I just pulled up my schedule, and they have put me on AVL for my SLC weekends. It would appear you got them back. It makes sense if you have a feeder -9 coming in from BOI, for time savings alone. I just wonder sometimes who is in charge of the "Big Picture" for route structures. My dog could make better decisions. LOL