Labor is being slowly killed

[b737drivr]

UPS pilots must continue mediation

Robert P. Mark
12/29/2005​

Today’s Wall Street Journal says the National Mediation Board declined to end federally supervised contract negotiations between United Parcel Service Inc. and its pilots union, effectively blocking any possible labor disruption for at least several more months. The decision weakens the position of the Independent Pilots Association, which represents 2,500 pilots at UPS.

With the decision yesterday, the contract talks will remain in recess until a federal mediator schedules another round of bargaining in 2006.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Is it Bush's fault?

 

[boomlrd]

Uh OH! Where is FreightNazi ie. Rhoid?? I guess Custom Air Transport and Express.net will continue to handle UPS freight in DAY. I can't believe that FreightNazi has nothing to say about this!

 

[180ToTheMarker]

Is it Bush's fault?

Isn't everything???

 

[maru657]

If I were one of the origanal UPS pilots flying for ryan or Orion who were told to stick around and then denied a position later, I wouldn't have any compunction about driving UPS planes today. That's why labor is dying. Should a former Braniff pilot have any problems with flying a south American route for American, or a former Frontier pilot crossing a UAL picket line?
If you voted for de-regulation of the industry, you deserve to be scabbed.

 

[AA717driver]

maru--You might as well be speaking Farsi to many on this board... TC

 

[HS125]

maru--You might as well be speaking Farsi to many on this board... TC

He may be speaking Farsi to a few, but there are plenty of us who know what he's talking about.

 

[ArianaAfghanAir]

Chetor asti Bachem!

 

[L'il J.Seinfeld]

BoomLrd--You haven't any idea what you are talking about.

This simply delays the inevitable and the denial was not unexpected. It simply shouws the resolve of the IPA to press this issue. When the IPA requests again after the next round of failed negotiations it will just put that much more pressure on the NMB.

 

[L'il J.Seinfeld]

Is it Bush's fault?

No. The release was denied, as it should have been, because UPS made progress during the talks. They improved their offers. The release will only come when there is a stalemate. Of course UPS knows this and is slow-rolling. An industry leading contract does not come easy, but as long as we keep making 1 billion per quarter we will get the 40% raise we deserve.

 

[Publishers]

Seinfeld,, Exactly what industry is that? The cargo airline business, airlines in general or what? Secondly, what relativity is there between what the profit is and you getting your raise. Flying is such a small part of UPS, what is that relativity?

 

[Chuck Yogourt]

Big Deal. It's not uncommon to be denied numerous times before being released. It just means that there is not an impass in the negotiations and the judge wants them to keep on talking. Quit being such a neagative moron there 737pylt a.k. Crybaby.

 

[PCL_128]

Uh OH! Where is FreightNazi ie. Rhoid?? I guess Custom Air Transport and Express.net will continue to handle UPS freight in DAY. I can't believe that FreightNazi has nothing to say about this!

This has nothing to do with your pathetic desire to continue to circumvent IPA scope. UPS will continue to pay absurd amounts of money in fines to the IPA pilots because of their willful violations of the scope language, and all of the flying will soon go to the UPS pilots where it belongs. This minor delay in self help isn't related to the Menlo situation at all.

 

[FNG_that's me]

UPS will not be released until after World goes through the whole process. The 'powers that be' want all the little guys to get finished before UPS gets their shot.

The IPA has tremendous bargaining power since the drivers will honor their strike(or strike threat). They will get a very good contract...

The higher ups want this to be the last contract settled(or second to last (FedEx)), so that the little guys have already been screwed and can't point to the UPS contract as an example.

 

[psysix]

What makes you think that UPS will end up getting a good contract? ALL the other majors are in the toilet, so why should UPS be getting a raise when all the others are taking concessions?