Kalitta/USA JET

[Freight Dawg]

Whats up with you USA JET dudes not getting interviewed or hired Kalitta? I know some of your guys with more time and experience than my buds over there being told thanks but no thanks. Any truth to the rumor of your company preventing it. If so the Sh!t ain't cool, so much for EOE. Best of luck dudes I hope business picks up for you and you guys get your money back.

FD

 

[IHaveAPension]

I'm sure PilotYIP is behind it. If he can't fly a 747 he doesn't want anyone that he knows to be able to fly one too!

 

[pilotyip]

Why would anyone want to fly a 747 around the world? Been there done that in a Turbo prop. In the last year 5 USA pilots have been hired by Kalitta. 3 DC-9 Captains, 1 DA-20 Capt low time TJ PIC, and one DC-9 F/O no TJ PIC. I think Kalitta is getting more to chose from since last January and guys with Int'l and wide body time are now available.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

..."one DC-9 F/O no TJ PIC"

Does the DA-20 not count as a turbojet?

 

[bobs98tlr]

He said NO TJ PIC...He could have went from the right seat of the FA-20 to the right seat of the DC-9.

 

[pilotyip]

bobs has got it right, F/O DA-20 to F/O DC-9

 

[iaflyer]

This must be new, I know of quite a few JUS guys making the jump to Kalitta...

Yes, a few >did< make the jump, but that door is closed now. I've been told by people involved in hiring that USA Jet asked KA to hold off on hiring JUS folks.

It happened a few months ago, but I think now USA Jet is worried that their 20%-25% paycut is going to cost them some people. Why stay when you can go somewhere else and upgrade to Captain in less than 1.5 years?

iaflyer

 

[pilotyip]

Could it be Kalitta found little airplane guys, you know "the light twins across the field" were not the same base training material as pilots with heavy experience and made a decision to stay away from little airplane guys?

 

[Everett Howe]

Could it be Kalitta found little airplane guys, you know "the light twins across the field" were not the same base training material as pilots with heavy experience and made a decision to stay away from little airplane guys?

So why did they hire all those ex-great lakes 1900 drivers? Is that considered a heavy nowadays?

 

[iaflyer]

So why did they hire all those ex-great lakes 1900 drivers? Is that considered a heavy nowadays?

That's exactly what I was going to say. I guess the "quality" product PilotYIP keep advertising that comes out of USA Jet is a fallacy.

It's interesting that the six people at KA from USA Jet all are flying the line and passed training as scheduled.

It's just a smokescreen from PilotYIP. For obivous reasons, JUS can't admit they are restricting their pilot's careers and preventing them from getting interviews.

iaflyer

 

[pilotyip]

Hey iaflyer I think you are putting too much into the conspiracy theory, we just got another background check from Kalitta on a USA Jet guy. Are you info the UFO's in Area 51 also? You also giving me too much credit you know I am just clerk and a score keeper.

 

[Everett Howe]

Hey iaflyer I think you are putting too much into the conspiracy theory, we just got another background check from Kalitta on a USA Jet guy. Are you info the UFO's in Area 51 also? You also giving me too much credit you know I am just clerk and a score keeper.

So why did you make the comment earlier that your guys aren't qualified enough to be hired by Kalitta? That was just not very nice and definitely send the wrong message about what JUS management thinks about their pilots.

Hm.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

I agree with Everett. That one deserves at least an explanation.

 

[pilotyip]

Where is your sense of humor? just a little poke here and there. I never said USA Jet guys were not qualified and the record certainly proves differently. What I was saying as Kalitta become more well known they got more applications and many of these had better experience than guys flying "the light twins" across the field. The bottom line is the job became more competitive and pilots who were getting on before, now are not competitive. Story of aviation. And iaflyer knows me well enough that I would never stand in the way of someone bettering themselves, and I often write letters of recommendation and give phone interviews to prospective employers such as Jet Blue.

 

[iaflyer]

Where is your sense of humor? just a little poke here and there. I never said USA Jet guys were not qualified and the record certainly proves differently. What I was saying as Kalitta become more well known they got more applications and many of these had better experience than guys flying "the light twins" across the field. The bottom line is the job became more competitive and pilots who were getting on before, now are not competitive. Story of aviation. And iaflyer knows me well enough that I would never stand in the way of someone bettering themselves, and I often write letters of recommendation and give phone interviews to prospective employers such as Jet Blue.

My sense of humor doesn't extend to USA Jet's interference with the hiring process at other airlines. It's not a conspiracy theory or a "rumor I've heard". I have actually spoken to those -directly- involved in the hiring process over here, and they specifically said that certain people from JUS had called and asked for them to not hire JUS people.

You said that perhaps Kalitta was finding better candidates than USA Jet guys - with the clear implication that they were more qualified than JUS folks. Everette Howe and I just said if that's the case, why are they hiring B1900 drivers? DA-20 and DC-9 pilots are competing for those jobs - one would think that a some jet time would be better than some turboprop time when it came to flying a B747.

You also giving me too much credit you know I am just clerk and a score keeper.

Anyone who works at USA Jet or used to work there know that is far from the truth. You may not make the decisions, but you closely advise those that do.

I am just confirming information that others have heard so that those who want to made the jump know what they are up against.

iaflyer

 

[Digital]

PilotYip,

You need to say what you mean..and by all means..mean what you say. I've seen you post things that are taken as a negative when speaking about your guys. And then on the other hand you would have everyone believing that a USA Jet guy is one of the best trained pilots in the industry. You have and most likely will continue to have a great influence on those who make the decision to hire at USA Jet. So please spare us with the "I'm not management phrase". Because you insult our intelligence by asking us to believe that! You know as well as I do that each guy at USA Jet deserves the opportunity to move if they so desire. And yes, I know about the individual's paper work that has come across your desk. Just be sure your giving your guys a fair shake and don't allow things to become personal. I know you take great pride in the individuals you have hired in the past. I also know that you have great expectations for them. However, don't allow that to affect your better judgement. This flying business is complicated enough without having to wonder if there are other variables working against you. Enough said..!!

 

[pilotyip]

As posted before I have never stood in the way of someone bettering themselves. If approached on career moves, I will offer advice. I tell them that leaving USA Jet before you have a 1000 hours TJ PIC is probably not a good career move. I am intimately involved in the hiring of all pilots at USA Jet and consider our pilots some of best in the business. I almost approach them as shipmates in my squadron. Although I am sure there are a few who do not reciprocate the feelings. I have helped some our pilots get on an other airlines by personally contacting people I know at other airlines to give them a push. I did not know Kalitta big was hiring B-1900 drivers, maybe no one from USA Jet wants to work at Kalitta? Could that be?

 

[pilotyip]

Statement correction, a background check came in from Kalitta and the name of a former USA Jet pilot was very close to the name of a current USA Jet pilot. The lady who does the background checks assumed it was the current USA Jet pilot and told me "so and so just had a background check request from Kalitta" The misinformation did not get very far before she discovered it was not the same guy.

 

[Freight Dawg]

Why is JUS management hold'n freight doggies down from move'n on. That definately scores major un cool points. But the JUS crews I talk to on the road are cool dudes. Best of luck brothers.

 

[iaflyer]

maybe no one from USA Jet wants to work at Kalitta? Could that be?

Anything is possible, but I personally know of a couple that are trying to get an interview. They have decent time, just as good or better than the latest new hires.

iaflyer

 

[N817AA]

Why do people in the hiring department at Kalitta even care. They have the right to hire anyone they want. We are all at will employees. It's not like people are going to quit flying a 747 to go fly a falcon 20.

 

[Iraqipilot]

As current employe of USA Jet. I have hade enough of managment. They made a judgement decision to over hire again and instead of laying off as they have done in the past they thought they would cut our pay to meet there new budget so they look good. I been with USA Jet for many years and i have never been so upset with the company thanks to Randy's cost cutting decisions. The companies decided to park 3 more falcons and instead of laying off the new guys' There moving them into the DC9 and spend more money on training them in stead of giving our pay back to us. NO body in the company took a pay cut but the pilots and this is the thanks we get for giving them a chance to change and turn down the union. Thanks Guys for the paycut.

 

[pilotyip]

Too much Credit

Marko I am flattered by all the power you give me, but you are giving me too much credit, I am just a score keeper and a clerk. Many people in the company took the ulimate pay cut, unemployment, including management. Come by and see me and I will fill you in on the details.