Kalitta Air

[CKS747RCC]

I will check. Requirements have changed since I started working here.

 

[MooseTrax]

I sent a resume in a few months ago and was called a week and a half ago for an interview 11, 12, 13 Aug. I was told by their DO that the interview would be two face to faces in YIP on the 11th with the CP and I think the DO, then they get you to DEN for a sim ride, basic airmanship, then they get you home. You need to get yourself to YIP to start the process. I do not know much about them, but was told by the DO that they have 11 acft currently and that 15 to 20 would probably be the target number to get to. They are spending some cash to upgrade avionics in the -200s to have 5 screens I think is what he said. Sounds like an alright place to be in these very tough times. This type of deal just does not work for me with an Air National Guard job too. Good luck to those interviewing.

 

[CKS747RCC]

I was in the April 26th class. We had 12 F/O's. 4 quit to go back to Atlas and another guy from TWA took a LOA to do real estate. So we lost 5 out of 12!

That was not the case. These fellas were asked to leave because they didn't pass ground school. Which was pretty sad considering they had experience but were too lazy to study or pay attention.

Working for Connie always has it's challenges. Mainly screw scheduling. I would like to see the head C/S asshole leave! (I hope the admin see this thread) Aside from that, I've always been treated well by the admin and Connie himself.

"A Reall Connie C*cksucker"

 

[ILStoMinimums]

That was not the case. These fellas were asked to leave because they didn't pass ground school. Which was pretty sad considering they had experience but were too lazy to study or pay attention.

Working for Connie always has it's challenges. Mainly screw scheduling. I would like to see the head C/S asshole leave! (I hope the admin see this thread) Aside from that, I've always been treated well by the admin and Connie himself.

"A Reall Connie C*cksucker"

So the guys with previous 747 experience failed training? Wow.

 

[iaflyer]

That was not the case. These fellas were asked to leave because they didn't pass ground school. Which was pretty sad considering they had experience but were too lazy to study or pay attention.

That's funny - were you in that class? I was, and they DID pass ground school. The entire class walked out of ground school with a pass - unless something changed after we all left GS.

As I understand it, all those who went back to Atlas involuntarily (3) were in or about to start sim training when they were given the choice between resigning their senority at Kalitta, or resigning at Atlas.

It is true that one of the 4 left Kalitta Air on his own, before sim training. From what I heard, the other three were interested in staying - one was 56 and unlikely to upgrade at Atlas - he wanted some captain time, so he was going to stay at KA.

Of course, sometimes the real story is different, but that's what I know...

iaflyer

 

[hawkerjet]

do they put you up in a hotel during training and do you get paid while in training?

 

[CWI]

No they don't pay for the hotel in DTW/YIP. You get $500 per week and that's about it. The training is about 5 weeks. Hotels are pretty reasonable and everyone has to bite the bullet.

The Atlas guys did not fail ground school, that's crazy. Who told you that CKS747RCC? These guys were still current on the B747. Everyone passed the class and the ground school instructor, an ex-EIA guy, was proud of the fact that no one has ever failed his ground school.

I was in class with them and Iflyer's post just about sums it up!

People more likely have trouble in the Simulator not the ground school. Remember this is older technology. Most of the flying and checkride is off the autopilot, much different than most if the other types, Airbus, B747-400, B737's.

BTW, Iflyer, how do you like heavy metal compared to the light twin you were flying? See ya on the line!

http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=147&topic_id=162635

http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=147&topic_id=162668

CWI

 

[nosewheel]

Cwi

CWI, Is that Av Sim stuff (links) you posted have anything to do with MS Flight Sim ? Is it some sort of add on. I have the Classic add on (ready for pusback) already but is this something new ? Thanx

 

[DrRaptor]

CWI, Is that Av Sim stuff (links) you posted have anything to do with MS Flight Sim ? Is it some sort of add on. I have the Classic add on (ready for pusback) already but is this something new ? Thanx

Yeah, that's FS2004 and the updated RFP plane. Ed did some tinkering to make an EFIS cockpit out of it for his personal use. Don't know if RFP ever approved him releasing it or not, but it's not available for distribution as far as I know.

If they'd fix some issues with their Flight Model, it'd be a great plane. As it is, it moves like it's a lot lighter than the UAL 742 sim did when I flew it a couple years back.

 

[potrack]

Kalitta?

Aren't there 747 contract operations out there that pay a lot more than Kalitta?
NCA, JAL, etc? Those companies have retirements and pay better, don't they?

 

[CWI]

Kalitta is really no different than other airlines, better in many cases.

But remember if you've been at Kalitta for 10 or more years the pay is very good, if you're a new hire or only have a few years under your belt the pay is rather low.

CWI

 

[ILStoMinimums]

Kalitta is really no different than other airlines, better in many cases.

But remember if you've been at Kalitta for 10 or more years the pay is very good, if you're a new hire or only have a few years under your belt the pay is rather low.

CWI

Comparing the paysclaes with Atlas, Atlas is way ahead. Starting pay is like $70 hr vs. $43 etc.

 

[potrack]

If you're anywhere for 10 or more years......the pay is pretty good.

 

[ILStoMinimums]

Ils to minimums,

You mentioned Atlas paying so much more, however, with Atlas your commuting to England to go to work, (at least that is where I believe Atlas is presently hiring for).. Where as Kalitta often times will buy you a ticket from home to start your days on. If you take some time to research the two companys there are very important lifestyle tradeoffs you would make. I only post this because I thought it's important when your looking for future employment to see more than just the posted salary. I'm neither an old timer, nor a new bee, but what I know from working in the industry is, it's always worth looking and researching all aspects of an operation before you would choose to apply. This way when it comes time to interview your not only knowledgeable about the job you've applied for, but your enthusiasm to work at that company shows. Best of wishes in your job search!

True, but eventually those newhires will be able to bid back to the US is my understanding. I don't know how long that would take, but sure looks like an options later on down the road. Rgds.

 

[potrack]

sounds like a bunch of knuckleheads.

sounds like a shotty operation.

 

[nosewheel]

Potrack

Which company are you refering to? Atlas or Kalitta ?

 

[potrack]

kalitta

 

[zeeman]

I think it would only take a knucklehead to go on another carrier's board and call them knuckleheads. You know what pothead oh I am sorry its potrack why dont you take your knucklehead mind on another board and make your comments there. See how they like you since you obviously have nothing good to say about Kalitta.


See ya around pothead Oh sorry again its potrack

 

[CKS747RCC]

The Atlas guys did not fail ground school, that's crazy. Who told you that CKS747RCC? These guys were still current on the B747. Everyone passed the class and the ground school instructor, an ex-EIA guy, was proud of the fact that no one has ever failed his ground school.

CWI

It's my understanding that the sim ride is part of initial training and therefore included as part of ground school. You have to pass both to continue on with IOE.

I don't know anything. I've only been here over 10 years, I'm not a young know it all.

A REAL Connie C*cksucker

 

[b747dogg]

It's my understanding that the sim ride is part of initial training and therefore included as part of ground school. You have to pass both to continue on with IOE.

I don't know anything. I've only been here over 10 years, I'm not a young know it all.

A REAL Connie C*cksucker

10 years? I thought they started back up in about 2000, after the Kitty Hawk mess. So I guess you're back for the reach around this time from Kalitta. Did you start at year 1 pay again or did they count your longevity?