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Rythm3

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OK, my boss just spent 10K on me to go to recurrent last month and I may have a lead on another job (twice the pay, better benefits, etc.)

My question is: How would you guys/gals feel about leaving a job after the boss just spent this kind of money on you, only 1 month ago? I would of course take the new job because I can't pass up twice the pay, but I would feel extremely guilty about leaving so soon.

Anyone having past experience with this kind of situation, I would love to hear your opinion.

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Rythm3
 

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twice the pay? better benefits? -"Thank You for the opportunity". Without knowing the entire story I would guess the new job is a definite career advancement.

Really, did you give this boss your word you would stay XX amount of time?? (verbal or written)

If no, and he's underpaying you that bad, a simple "thank you" and a resignation letter will suffice. That job will continue to be a revolving door.

If you are breaking your promise in any way...make good on it, be honest - and still take the other job. (offer to pay for your recurrent maybe) It might sound crazy but your reputation is worth it.

Either way, dont let anything stop you from career advancement until you are at the job you want to be at.

Its not personal, its business. Feel bad that guy just spent 10K on you? Pilots are such fools...he didnt spend that 10K on you!!...he spent that because he wanted to arrive alive and his insurance company required it. He didnt do it for YOU. That same guy will lay you off in a second.

Think that guy affords his own jet by being a "nice guy"? ---- not a farkin' chance.

My Rule:

Look out for #1 because #1 has to pay the mortgage.

good luck!
 
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Rythm3 said:
OK, my boss just spent 10K on me to go to recurrent last month and I may have a lead on another job (twice the pay, better benefits, etc.)

My question is: How would you guys/gals feel about leaving a job after the boss just spent this kind of money on you, only 1 month ago? I would of course take the new job because I can't pass up twice the pay, but I would feel extremely guilty about leaving so soon.

Anyone having past experience with this kind of situation, I would love to hear your opinion.

Thanks,

Rythm3
How about you tell your boss what the other company is going to pay you. Maybe...just maybe he might match it!!
 

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You guys talk like that training cost is a gift. It's part of doing business. If you've got to move on, move on....

...and NEVER go in there and play the money-card. Very poor form.

Either you accept the company's philosophy, or you don't.

good luck
 

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MVSW said:
How about you tell your boss what the other company is going to pay you. Maybe...just maybe he might match it!!

Um no....just make your decision and give your notice. If they want to keep you with money they will offer at that time. Even then you will always be known as a guy who will jump at the next buck - you will be marked. Just go.
 
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ultrarunner said:
You guys talk like that training cost is a gift. It's part of doing business. If you've got to move on, move on....
That is true, but you jump ship like that you look like an a$$ hole. You are right in saying that though! Just don't burn any bridges. You know his boss wouldn't agree with that!!

regards.
 
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You will get over it. The company you are leaving will learn from you and begin to see the value of training contracts and making pilots pay for their own type.
 

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Dork!!!!!!

Jump Pilot said:
You will get over it. The company you are leaving will learn from you and begin to see the value of training contracts and making pilots pay for their own type.
And then they will see how little we (the professional pilot community) value them as a quality employer!!!!
Nothing wrong with a training contract IMO as long as its equitable, but making pilots pay for their own type is a sure sign of a bottom feeder employer. If the guy is leaving because he has the opportunity to DOUBLE his salary I say "GO FOR IT"!!! Do the right thing and work out some type of agreement with the old employer (its a very small community) but don't look back.
 

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You have got to go for it. The costs associated with re-current are the costs of owning an aircraft.

Never appologize for looking our for your family or make appologies for super-millionares. Move on and never look back. Your employer may be a great guy, but like G200 said, it is you who pay the mortage. I also agree with the give notice and not ask for more money. Bad form and little class.

As far as your reputation goes, I think most will agree that a certain level of respect is given to those who better there position in life through hard work. You were offered a job a 2x's the salary because of who you are. You EARNED it.

Now go take the F'n job, take your wife to Morton's for dinner and take care of business:D :D
 

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Jump Pilot said:
You will get over it. The company you are leaving will learn from you and begin to see the value of training contracts and making pilots pay for their own type.
Or perhaps they will see the value in valuing their employee's ....:rolleyes:
 

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Amen!!!!

G100driver said:
Or perhaps they will see the value in valuing their employee's ....:rolleyes:
Can I get a big AMEN from the congregation(sp?)!!!!!!

-The Honorable Right Rev. Rice
(okay so maybe I'm not that honorable)
 

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Double the income?

Agreed!! You are in aviation and you are expected to better your position in life through hard work, experience and opportunity. Your only obligation is to give your employer adequite notice so he can get another pilot up to speed and keep him from sitting on the hard.

This should be coordinated with the new hire company as well. Because if you take care of the business of the business you will be viewed as a valued team player who will look out for the new company in the long run. Never burn bridges that you may find yourself crossing in the future.

However, make absolutely certain that you have the new job locked in and down on paper. Good hunting!!
 

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aeronautic1 said:
However, make absolutely certain that you have the new job locked in and down on paper. Good hunting!!
I almost learned this one the hard way... I was very lucky..
 

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You gotta go where the dinero is. I am leaving my current job for one that pays $35K more.

My current employer matched the offer from my new company. If they see the value now, why haven't they for the last 14 months?
 

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Jump Pilot said:
You gotta go where the dinero is. I am leaving my current job for one that pays $35K more.

My current employer matched the offer from my new company. If they see the value now, why haven't they for the last 14 months?
Supply and demand. Simple as that. But to some extent, they must place some value on you, or they wouldn't have even matched the offer.

happy hunting
 

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Hey simperfido, whats the picture on the evs of?

I can't help saying this, but, isn't that a bit shallow to just skip out on a company that paid for recurrent? I know recurrent is just business, and the other company is paying more. Just seems a bit harsh. What are you guys reasons for saying to just leave?
 

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Duderino said:
Hey simperfido, whats the picture on the evs of?

I can't help saying this, but, isn't that a bit shallow to just skip out on a company that paid for recurrent? I know recurrent is just business, and the other company is paying more. Just seems a bit harsh. What are you guys reasons for saying to just leave?

duderino,
it is not evs. it is simply airshow and one of the external cameras displayed on one of cockpit screens.

no, i don't think it is shallow. it is just the way of the world we live in. believe me, the company won't treat you any different. "this aint no dress rehersal" -- the guy had a better deal! the days of "cradle to grave" loyalty have long since gone bye-bye.



fido
 
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10 GRAND FOR RECCURENT?, What, a week of ground school and a sim ride?, What did training consist of?I understand this maybe 91 or 135 but geesh.
 

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Duderino said:
I can't help saying this, but, isn't that a bit shallow to just skip out on a company that paid for recurrent? I know recurrent is just business, and the other company is paying more. Just seems a bit harsh. What are you guys reasons for saying to just leave?
Shallow??? I would not worry about it. Go where the money is. Lord knows that when company goes to sell the jet they could care less about your up and coming house payment.
 
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