just wait till rita hits

[jws717]

Fuel should be going up agian this week, CAT 5 rita is heading to the teaxs coast, the nations largest refinerys are already shutting down to prepare for the storm. estimate of fuel at 5$ a gal. I am afraid this will destoy the industry in a week.

 

[FNG_that's me]

Lighten up Francis...or should I say, Chicken Little.

 

[OPECJet]

It certainly won't help.

Gas prices here still haven't gone down from Katrina.

 

[Hefe]

The sky is falling. Whatever are we to do?

 

[Chuck Yogourt]

I think I will have a beer and hope for the best. Here's to swimming with bow legged women. Bottoms up. Cheer cheer.

 

[learflyer]

Sit back, relax, have a beer, and watch all the boneheads with 50 gas cans in the back of thier trucks fill them up!

 

[CA1900]

Sit back, relax, have a beer, and watch all the boneheads with 50 gas cans in the back of thier trucks fill them up!

I prefer to watch the boneheads driving trucks around town fill the gas-guzzling behemoths up. Hope that Excursion was worth it, lady.

 

[Luke's Dad]

Fuel should be going up agian this week, CAT 5 rita is heading to the teaxs coast, the nations largest refinerys are already shutting down to prepare for the storm. estimate of fuel at 5$ a gal. I am afraid this will destoy the industry in a week.

A novel concept that our airline braintrust leadership should take note. Fuel prices go up. Ticket prices go up...... I forgot NWA and DAL and the rest had the brilliant idea of bleeding others out of the industry.

 

[miles otoole]

I prefer to watch the boneheads driving trucks around town fill the gas-guzzling behemoths up. Hope that Excursion was worth it, lady.

I prefer boneheads flying around in their CRJ 200 gas guzzlers. Hope that job is worth it.

 

[CA1900]

I prefer boneheads flying around in their CRJ 200 gas guzzlers. Hope that job is worth it.

LOL, wouldn't know. I fly an efficient turboprop.

 

[FN FAL]

LOL, wouldn't know. I fly an efficient turboprop.

Yea, I hear ya. There could be a nuclear war and I'd still have to show up for work on Monday.

 

[LAXSaabdude]

I prefer boneheads flying around in their CRJ 200 gas guzzlers.

'Cause it's soooo much more economical to fly 30-50 people around in a 737.

LAXSaabdude.

 

[Flying Illini]

Gas won't hit $5 a gallon, it will peak at $3.50 or less.

 

[erj-145mech]

Gas won't hit $5 a gallon, it will peak at $3.50 or less.

Famous last words. Want to take a stab at jet fuel prices?

 

[JimNtexas]

Fuel should be going up agian this week, CAT 5 rita is heading to the teaxs coast, the nations largest refinerys are already shutting down to prepare for the storm. estimate of fuel at 5$ a gal. I am afraid this will destoy the industry in a week.

Bloomberg :

Gasoline Falls as Hurricane Rita Weakens, Shifts Eastwards Sept. 23 (Bloomberg) -- Gasoline fell in New York after Hurricane Rita weakened on its path toward Texas and shifted track away from the heart of the refining industry. Crude oil futures were little changed.

Rita's winds dropped to 145 mph from as high as 175 mph earlier, the National Hurricane Center said. The storm may make landfall between the northern coast of Texas and the west coast of Louisiana. Gasoline rose 4.2 percent yesterday as about 20 percent of U.S. refining capacity was shut in Texas.

``The track has been moving to the east, away from the really big refineries in the Houston area,'' said Kyle Cooper, an analyst with Citigroup Inc. in Houston. ``The storm is still serious.''

Gasoline for October delivery fell as much as 3.94 cents, or 1.8 percent, to $2.10 a gallon in after-hours electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange at 8:32 a.m. Sydney time.

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

Fuel should be going up agian this week, CAT 5 rita is heading to the teaxs coast, the nations largest refinerys are already shutting down to prepare for the storm. estimate of fuel at 5$ a gal. I am afraid this will destoy the industry in a week.

!!!!EEEKKKK!!!! (in my best 1950's spookem flick chick scream)

Calm down there big fella....it is just another hurricane. Will gas go up? Yep.
Will the industry feel it? Yep.

But it's not like we were bombed by the Japanese in a surprise attack and are getting ready to spend the next 4 years in a World War in which 20 million people will die.

There are "OH Sh!t" moments in history and then there are just moments in history. This is more of a "Dang thats gonna smart at the gas pump" type of thing.

Although it does make me glad fall is here.......summer can get pricey mowing the lawn at 5 bucks a gallon!! (stupid gas hog riding mower.........)

 

[klhoard]

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[100LL... Again!]

Does anyone think that the surge in fuel prices may actually make avgas powered aircraft a little more popular again in the 135 world? Chartering that Conquest might seem a little pricey when you could do it in a 414 for less.


Not that I'm biased, what with my name being 100LL and all...


Also, I hear that in the general aircraft market, piston twins are VERY hard to sell and singles are increasing a little because of fuel prices. Anyone got any insight on this?

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

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Please, Please, tell me that you are kidding!!??

Otherwise I will give Jay Leno a call and we can set you up on one of his "Jay Walking" spots and ask some history questions for a good giggle!

 

[FNG_that's me]

Please, Please, tell me that you are kidding!!??

Forget it, he's on a roll.

 

[FastCargo]

Face it Flounder, you f*****d up! You trusted us!

 

[jimcav]

Hey ca1900 maybe some of us boneheads can afford the gas we put in our trucks and suvs.

 

[FN FAL]

Gas won't hit $5 a gallon, it will peak at $3.50 or less.

REALLY? Got news for you dude...the Delta Connection!

Do a www.google.com news search and find the story yourself, but the skinny is some Niger Delta freedom fighters just seized up Chevron's oil facilities and shut them down with the intention of blowing them up.

 

[LeonPhelps]

Did we give up when the germans bombed pearl harbor?

I know I'm an optimistic minority...but, I remember that low gas prices in the mid 90s drove a lot of the boutique oil producers in texas, utah, montana out of business...well, I just read an article recently that high prices are bringing those guys back. Hopefully the supply will help bring the prices down...to say, below $2.00 a gallon at the pumps by next summer?

(Insert flame here)

 

[klhoard]

I know I'm an optimistic minority...but, I remember that low gas prices in the mid 90s drove a lot of the boutique oil producers in texas, utah, montana out of business...well, I just read an article recently that high prices are bringing those guys back. Hopefully the supply will help bring the prices down...to say, below $2.00 a gallon at the pumps by next summer?

(Insert flame here)

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www.biodiesel.org
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Just found my source for the stuff about 15 miles south of Collierville.
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[Paul R. Smith]

Man that Forbes guy is full of sh@t.


Sorry, carry on.

 

[jetflyer]

Paul,

About Forbes. I think he was asked by someone to try to calm the markets. I think he was maybe even asked by Bush?? He made his $35-$40 prediction on oil prices after KATRINA, right??

He also made his prediction before the complete story on the damage to the oil rigs, refineries, and pipelines were released. A lot of the rigs in the Gulf are going to be down for a long, long time because well they're GONE!

They still do not know the extent of the damage to all of the underwater pipelines. Ivan really messed the pipelines up last year.

Let's hope Rita doesn't cause some long term damage.

These hurricanes suck. Remember gas prices were $2.50 before Katrina even. Now could we see $5.00? Definitely especially if there are a lot of refineries out for weeks.

It doesn't matter how much oil you have if you can't refine it. Remember the refineries were running at about 97% capacity already! Several are still shut down from Katrina. It's impossible to refine right now the amount of gasoline we need every day, so we're going to be going through our gasoline inventories that are stored up, but there aren't that much.

Thank GOD, for the IEA, which supplied us with ALREADY REFINED PRODUCTS, like heating oil, gasoline, etc that should last a little while. Let's hope we can get the refineries running very soon.

I can't wait till I can buy an electric car!!

Jet

 

[Paul R. Smith]

I agree with forbes myself, and while I'm no expert, I don't see how lost refining capacity affects (lost refineries) causes us to have an oil shortage. If anything we should have oil barrels piling up waiting to be refined no? My garage logic always fails me though.

 

[jimcav]

Yeah, Bush conspiring with Forbes to calm the markets sounds logical. Just like the N.O. levees breaking was a white man conspiracy, this according to Farrikhan. Enough of the conspiracies already.

 

[jetflyer]

Paul,

Your logic is right.

Unfortunately the analysts are predicting worldwide demand for crude oil in the 4th quarter of 86 million barrels/day, while the world currently only produces 84 million barrels a day.

Plus 84 million barrels a day, was before we lost a lot of the Gulf Of Mexico production and before the problems happening in Nigeria.

So, I think prices of oil will trade sideways until winter.

If it's a cold winter which will require more HEATING OIL and may boost worldwide demand more than 86 millon/day, I think we could see $90/barrel.

Jet