Just in time for the holidays, no more 1,2,3, happy Thanksgiving...

[snow-back]

So what happened in ABQ?

Just announced by SWA hotel committee, SWA will no longer seek any form of reduced rate beverage deals like the 1, 2, 3. Seems we can thank the latest 2 or 3 fools who "pooped their pants", spoiling it for the other 20,000 folks who now have to wear diapers.

Thanks ABQ guy...

Discuss:

 

[N1atEcon]

especially considering running out hedges

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Here we go again! Another pilot thats has no clue about what he speaks of.

What ever happened to one being responsible for their actions.
Oh boy, I just ran over a kid on the way to work. It wasn't my fault, so I am going to sue the school district for having school start the same time as my job.

 

[Dan Roman]

I can't believe no one said it yet........SWA's beer hedges have run out, they have to be in trouble!!

To be honest, given the current climate in the media, I can see managements concern if someone in the press decides to run with the fact that SWA negotiates cheap alcohol for it's crews on layovers. Combine that with the fact that one of SWA's strengths is productivity and they don't exactly have long layovers in the cities they stay in and you've a big story on a slow night of news.

 

[Chest Rockwell]

The fact that this nice benefit has been bragged about on a public forum (such as this) has not helped either.

 

[Dan Roman]

The fact that this nice benefit has been bragged about on a public forum (such as this) has not helped either.

True statement.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

So what happened in ABQ?

This whole losing control of your bowels story. Was it an alcohol thing, or more of an over age 60 thing?

 

[StopNTSing]

I can't believe no one said it yet........SWA's beer hedges have run out, they have to be in trouble!!

To be honest, given the current climate in the media, I can see managements concern if someone in the press decides to run with the fact that SWA negotiates cheap alcohol for it's crews on layovers. Combine that with the fact that one of SWA's strengths is productivity and they don't exactly have long layovers in the cities they stay in and you've a big story on a slow night of news.

Actually, our productivity translates into more time on the layovers and less time appreciating the airport on a hub turn. An eight- to ten-hour duty day with 14-16 hrs at the hotel is the norm.

I hear what you guys are saying regarding the PR issue....it's just sad to see another cave-in to the CYA mentality that is ruining this country.

 

[Whataburger]

Most gas stations have cheap beer. Grab the crewmembers you like, and go find a patio.

 

[chqflyer]

OK. We're all dying to known about ABQ guy!

 

[bravodude]

SWA grew 70% since 9/11. Because of the growth everybody was moving fast and they could keep the costs low.

It was great and every pilot told kids that they should become pilots and fly only at Southwest.

Now that the party is over the costs are climbing and a very natural thing takes place - a LCC becoming not that much of LCC any more, especially considering running out hedges.
I know one thing - it would really be frustrating to be junior for years with those young Captains not going anywhere..

Besides, with new leadership how long until the old 300's are replaced with brand new stretched RJ's flown for $20/hour Instructordudes at desperate regionals?

Good luck Southwest, we all have hard times, welcome to reality.

the reality is we have scope protection that does not allow any RJ flying by anyone other then a pilot on the SWA seniority list. The reality is we just recieved a pay raise plus retro. The reality is SWA is doing everything possible to keep people on the property including beeing over staffed by more then 250 pilots.
The reality is things are still really good here, actually they are great here.

 

[krewmeel]

I think the Cactus guys in MIA had 11, 12, 13........check please!

My god, that is hillarious.....I just about pooped MY pants laughing so hard!

 

[texman]

Most gas stations have cheap beer. Grab the crewmembers you like, and go find a patio.

Your so right brother. Pool and room parties are going to climb. Natty light baby or MD 20/20

 

[texman]

the reality is we have scope protection that does not allow any rj flying by anyone other then a pilot on the swa seniority list. The reality is we just recieved a pay raise plus retro. The reality is swa is doing everything possible to keep people on the property including beeing over staffed by more then 250 pilots.
The reality is things are still really good here, actually they are great here.

true!

 

[snozberry]

It is not being uptight. Think of our press of today. See a SWA crew getting nailed at the TSA checkpoint. Move beyond it. One of the 24 hr new corporations gets a "tip" on where he stayed last night, they get the bar tab, video or whatever else they can get their hands on, it shows a 1,2,3 and then it is "discovered" that SWA the airline negotiates that deal for its crews. I see a major PR issues for the company.

We at DAL do not do that type of deal for that very reason. It is not being uptight. It this day of lawyers, 24 hr news, and lawsuits, it makes sense for the company to protect itself that way.

Just sayin........

Do you guys sell liquor on your plane? What happens if the person you sold liquor to crashes on his drive home? I guess it's ok if you profit from it. Liability has nothing to do with it, it's about a bean counter willing to get rid of a tradition and sell out company morale for the possibility of saving a dollar a night at a hotel.

 

[Dan Roman]

OK. We're all dying to known about ABQ guy!

insert sound of crickets chirping.........

 

[Quimby]

Yes, and a bigger wallet if I can get that too......and hot FAs......although I think I was hired 20 years too late for those last two.

Good luck with all that. Let us know when you find the hot fa's.

 

[thor2j]

the reality is we have scope protection that does not allow any RJ flying by anyone other then a pilot on the SWA seniority list. The reality is we just recieved a pay raise plus retro. The reality is SWA is doing everything possible to keep people on the property including beeing over staffed by more then 250 pilots.
The reality is things are still really good here, actually they are great here.

Whoa, lay off the crack pipe, reality is starting to blur!

 

[Going2Baja]

And I am too because I always tell everyone I work for SWA no matter which bar I'm drinking in.

I watched a cool guy UAL capt try and pull this in the SEA Doubletree w/ two crews at his table. He went on and on how they were going to score cheap drinks and that he would get the 1st round...then the bill came and he couldn't produce an id. Nor could anyone else...CLASSIC! What a tool. The best part was watching the f/o's laugh at the guy and deinflate his head.

Baja.

 

[B6Busdriver]

insert sound of crickets chirping.........

Good for the SWA guys...protect your own.

 

[Hamburger]

A lawsuit waiting to happen for 35 years? Spare me...

How many years was McDonald's Coffee hot before the lawsuit?

I'm surprised it lasted this long.