Jumpseat war has begun

[MCDU]

Looks like one of the East USAIR pilots was just denied the J/S on a WEST Aircraft from SFO to CLT. (Which is an original EAST route). Looks like he got denied because he was wearing a USAPA lanyard. Next time I do SEA LAS or LAS SAN or PHX SFO or PHX SLC etc. I will not let a WEST Pilot on the J/S until this is resolved. And what I am hearing , this will be done by many AAA captains.

Let the games begin.

Marty

 

[Midnight Flyer]

With a policy like that, you'll screw the good guys just trying to get home. It's not fair to make everyone suffer because one guy happened to be wearing that lanyard.

 

[GuppyWN]

Got what was coming to him if you ask me.

No better way to build unity than to wear that lanyard.

Gup

 

[Avi8tor2000]

They should have stapled your ass, whiney b!tch. How many times did you need to go bankrupt before you liquidated? You should thank those guys for saving your company and the fact that you still have a job. Stop trying to make everyone as miserable as yourselves.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Can you feel the love.......Time for some Herndon Kumbaya KoolAid.......Rez? PCL128?

 

[737 Pylt]

Can you feel the love.......Time for some Herndon Kumbaya KoolAid.......Rez? PCL128?

What a complete jackass! Shouldn't you be stealing LEC minutes and crying to your girlfriend?
I don't know what's worse, the jerk denying a jumpseat over a silly lanyard, or you turning a thread into your ALPA bashing fest!
No wonder you're stuck at ASA troll!

737

 

[241BlujucCktl]

I don't care what your politics, religion, or union preference might be, when you start denying the jumpseat to another pilot you are only going to screw yourself in the long run. If ProStandards doesn't deal with this I hope anybody caught doing this gets an unpaid vacation.

 

[TWA Dude]

Looks like he got denied because he was wearing a USAPA lanyard.

First of all, I've stated here many times that I completely oppose any politics entering into the jumpseat. It shouldn't matter in the least what any pilot's views on anything are. If s/he is on the approved jumpseat list s/he should be allowed to ride.

Having said that, the captain is essentially inviting the jumpseater into his/her home and thus a certain decorum is exptected. For instance, one wouldn't step into the cockpit and insult the captain and still expect to be able to ride. For this reason I don't have anything on my flight case political or controversial and I would never bring up a delicate topic. IF I'M JUMPSEATING I AVOID CAUSING TROUBLE!!!!.

Everybody knows darn well the raison d'etre of USAPA is to screw the AWA pilots and that a USAPA lanyard is offensive to us. Wearing the lanyard is a direct insult. Now, why in the heck would you expect us to let you on the jumpseat when you insult us?

The solution to this problem is simple: YOU need to take the politics out of the situation. If an Eastie wishes to jump on an AWA plane take off the lanyard.

 

[B727Driver]

First the jumpseat, next in the sim for a PC. Many mergers in the future, time will get interesting.

 

[ReverseSensing]

Lanyards are for Sallys.

 

[MCDU]

So, should an America West take off his ALPA lanyard when J/S on East Metal, since ALPA has already screwed the EAST?
I could care less.
Mesa and Republik still get to J/S, even though they have taken away 1/3 of our jobs. Those pilots in my view are direct replacement pilots for all the furloughs AAA has endured.
Alpa is a joke and the only reason AWA supports them is because they want their windfall, which will never happen as long as we have 3500+ pilots against 1800.

Marty

 

[BEfly]

So, should an America West take off his ALPA lanyard when J/S on East Metal, since ALPA has already screwed the EAST?
I could care less.
Mesa and Republik still get to J/S, even though they have taken away 1/3 of our jobs. Those pilots in my view are direct replacement pilots for all the furloughs AAA has endured.
Alpa is a joke and the only reason AWA supports them is because they want their windfall, which will never happen as long as we have 3500+ pilots against 1800.

Marty

I'll never go to the airwines.....Never.

 

[241BlujucCktl]

So, should an America West take off his ALPA lanyard when J/S on East Metal, since ALPA has already screwed the EAST?

Excellent Point

 

[michael707767]

So, should an America West take off his ALPA lanyard when J/S on East Metal, since ALPA has already screwed the EAST?

Has ALPA screwed the East? You are members of ALPA and you know (or should know) that ALPA policy does not mention DOH anywhere. Yet you held to the idea that you should have DOH, then watered it down some by wanting LOS. Neither position was supportable. Had you negotiated a list you would have come out with a better deal than what you got. But you were unwilling to be reasonable, and when an arbitrator, whose decision you agreed in advance to live with, rendered his decision you feel screwed. Knowing DOH was not ALPA policy, why did you not leave ALPA years ago?

 

[Tejas-Jet]

If an Eastie wishes to jump on an AWA plane take off the lanyard.

Sooooo...could he take off the lanyard, ask for the J/S...then after the gear is up...put the lanyard on again?

All joking aside...we've seen this in the past. Anytime a J/S battle starts, the only result is that both sides end up losing...especially when it is nothing more than a trivial matter.